I forgot to put the computer details in:

SERVER: Linux redneck 2.6.28-16-server #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 20
20:37:10 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

DESKTOP: Linux duckpond 2.6.28-16-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 20
19:48:32 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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nat routes internal ip's over extrenal networks lan ips over wan networks
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/269081
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