On Tue, 2009-10-06 at 16:15 +0000, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > I don't think there is any way of describing that something is free of > charge better than using the word "free". Your suggestion, "available", > doesn't serve the purpose: it applies just as well to software that > costs money ("available for only $19.95") as software that doesn't. > Other possibilities would be "Price: Zero" or "Price: $0", but neither > of those would work in headings or in the navigation pane ("Get $0 > Software"), and currency would also be hard to localize. > > On the flip side, it is unfortunate that the FSF and its associates use > the term "free software" in a sense that cannot be understood without > explanation. I habitually used "free software" too, right up until the > moment when I came to design the license presentation in this program > and realized, oh crap, hardly anyone is going to understand that. This > wouldn't be the first time a term coined by Richard Stallman has > succumbed to contact with the real world, and it probably won't be the > last. Fortunately in this case, though, we have an alternative in "open > source" -- where even if people don't yet know what it means, at least > they're much less likely to mislead themselves. > > No matter how much you or I care about software licensing, more people > care more about its price. There are various ways we can nudge people > towards caring more about licensing (see the Hardware Drivers window for > a slightly overwrought example), and I look forward to designing future > features that will help people keep track of which proprietary packages > they have installed, whether any of those have open-source equivalents, > and so on. But in this case we really do need to use the word "free" as > in price. Sorry. > > ** Changed in: software-center (Ubuntu) > Status: Incomplete => Invalid >
I have to note, I am just exchanging ideas here, not pursuing to convince you in any way. Consider the following scenario: You setup a repository for your company's computers, at a http site like www.mywhatevercompany.com, where you place software that your company *purchased*, to be available to your company's desktops/worksations. This additional software will appear in Software Center as it is now, under the title "Free Software", which is inaccurate. Software Center, Synaptic, Add/Remove Software, apt-get, etc, are used to install, remove and update available software, not only non-commercial software. So, at the present time (as Software Centre is *now*), I think the phrase "Available Software" instead of "Free Software" covers all possible situations/scenarios, for now. That's my thoughts. Also, I have to say I am not Ubuntu Linux "fanatic", I just use it because it suits me better right now. Before Ubuntu, I used Scientific Linux (a Red Hat Enterpise Linux "clone"). Regards, -- Ioannis Vranos C95 / C++03 Software Developer http://www.cpp-software.net -- Software Center should not use the word "Free Software" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/442882 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs