Just a note on the upgraded installation Intrepid 1 above, I do a fresh
install each 2-3 releases of Ubuntu, so either Gutsy or Hardy would have
been a fresh install from CD. Both of those systems had IPV6 enabled
didn't they? While the bug is quite likely with alsa/pulseaudio, it is
brought to our attention by network configurations.

Now it seems from my reading (and correct me if I am wrong) that ALSA
operates on the current machine/filesystem only, whereas pulseaudio is a
sound server, which extends the sounds capabilities of the system by
making it possible or easier to serve sound across networks, between
applications etc. Sort of like X for audio. So if our problem is
anywhere it is either with pulseaudio or network configuration or even
the relationship between ALSA and Pulseaudio.

1) Is there an easy way to remove pulseaudio from the equation, ie an
isolation test, so we only have ALSA and the network running and have
ALSA unaware of or logged in with pulseaudio?

We know that if we remove the computer from the network, our problem at
shutdown disappears. I don't think ALSA really has anything to do with
the network, except through Pulseaudio.

I propose an isolation test (running an affected system without
pulseaudio being loaded) on a few different systems to verify Pulseaudio
as a likely cause of the bug instead of ALSA alone.

2) I will also be checking for network config changes  that could affect
this issue between Hardy-Intrepid. Long shot, but could turn something
up. Pulseaudio wasn't included in Gutsy and we haven't heard of this
issue in Hardy, which did have Pulseaudio.

3) Another line of inquiry is to explore the relationship between ALSA
and Pulseaudio. Does anyone know how it works and if this could be the
root of the issue? Could it be that ALSA is still trying to poll for
Pulseaudio on any available hosts or networks (eg. localhost)? Perhaps
that is why the addition of localhost to the /etc/hosts file works. ALSA
can see that Pulseaudio isn't there locally and stops looking. I could
be wrong with this. I don't know how the relationship between them
works.

These 3 areas would seem to me to be the 3 only likely causes of the
bug.

Please feel free to tell me I'm wrong.

dov

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MASTER storing ALSA mixer element values during shutdown hangs 
nondeterministically if non-loopback network interfaces are still up
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/274995
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