On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Oscar Benjamin <oscar.j.benja...@gmail.com> wrote: > Spyder has both an internal interpreter and an external interpreter. > One is the same interpreter process that runs the Spyder GUI. The > other is run in a subprocess which keeps the GUI safe but reduces your > ability to inspect the workspace data via the GUI. So presumable > Albert means the "external" interpreter here.
I installed Spyder on Windows to look into this. It's using Qt QProcess to run the external interpreter in a child process. sys.stdin.isatty() confirms it's not a tty, and Process Explorer confirms that all 3 standard I/O handles (from msvcrt.get_osfhandle()) are pipes. The file encoding is None for piped standard I/O, so printing unicode falls back to the default encoding. Normally this is ASCII in 2.x, but Spyder uses sitecustomize to set the default encoding based on the default locale. It also sets the hidden console's codepage: if os.name == 'nt': # Windows platforms # Setting console encoding (otherwise Python does not # recognize encoding) try: import locale, ctypes _t, _cp = locale.getdefaultlocale('LANG') try: _cp = int(_cp[2:]) ctypes.windll.kernel32.SetConsoleCP(_cp) ctypes.windll.kernel32.SetConsoleOutputCP(_cp) except (ValueError, TypeError): # Code page number in locale is not valid pass except ImportError: pass http://code.google.com/p/spyderlib/source/browse/spyderlib/ widgets/externalshell/sitecustomize.py?name=v2.2.0#74 Probably this was added for a good reason, but I don't grok the point. Python isn't interested in the hidden console window at this stage, and the standard handles are all pipes. I didn't notice any difference with these lines commented out, running with Python 2.7.5. YMMV There's a design flaw here since sys.stdin.encoding is used by the parser in single-input mode. With it set to None, Unicode literals entered in the REPL will be incorrectly parsed if they use non-ASCII byte values. For example, given the input is Windows 1252, then u'€' will be parsed as u'\x80' (i.e. PAD, a C1 Control code). Here's an alternative to messing with the default encoding -- at least for the new version of Spyder that doesn't have to support 2.5. Python 2.6+ checks for the PYTHONIOENCODING environment variable. This overrides the encoding/errors values in Py_InitializeEx(): http://hg.python.org/cpython/file/70274d53c1dd/Python/pythonrun.c#l265 You can test setting PYTHONIOENCODING without restarting Spyder. Just bring up Spyder's "Internal Console" and set os.environ['PYTHONIOENCODING']. The change applies to new interpreters started from the "Interpreters" menu. Spyder could set this itself in the environment that gets passed to the QProcess object. _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor