> Akleider, you didn't include attribution for the person you are quoting, > which is a bit rude and also means I can't be sure who it was. From > context, I *think* it is the original poster Scott: > > On 16/09/12 13:06, aklei...@sonic.net wrote: >>> I'm using this to write a program I'm calling TORdialer with the goal >>> of >>> attempting to basically ping all possible TOR hidden service pages with >>> the goal of having an absolutely complete list of all TOR hidden >>> services >>> on the net right now. > > Did you really think that when a group of really smart security and > network > experts sit down to design a protocol for hiding services from discovery, > that it would actually be vulnerable to a programming beginner who just > lists out all the possible sites and pings them? And the TOR designers > didn't think of that? > > I'm sorry if this comes across as condescending, but it's kinda cute that > you thought this was viable. TOR is designed to be resistant to discovery > from people with the full resources of the United States and Chinese > governments. Believe me, they already considered the "brute force attack" > where you list out every possible address. > > If every person in the world runs their own TOR hidden network, then the > chances of you pinging *even one* by accident is about 1 in > 172703688516375. > If your TORdialer program could ping a million addresses per second, you > would need to run it non-stop for over five years just to find *one* > address. > > "An absolutely complete list"... oh my stars and garters. > > (Remember those maths classes on permutations and combinations that you > probably thought were totally pointless? *This* is why they're important.) > > > > -- > Steven
I do sincerely apologize for anything that was rude. Please believe me, it was not my intent to be so. I also apologize for in any way contributing to anything that might be considered nefarious. I did not appreciate that the goal of the exercise was less than honourable. My interest in this had only to do with how one might come up with all possible x length strings consisting only of a predefined set of characters. Why one might want to do this, was of no interest to me at the time; in fact I didn't understand what the goal was and I appreciate your explaining that to me. Might I also take this opportunity to thank you and all the other contributers on this mailing list for the friendly helpful place I have found this list to be. Sincerely, Alex Kleider _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
