I Use Windows.I Already Know C/C++ which makes python syntax seem very easy. Maybe Setting Up Emacs With Python Will Make Me Productive. I Have Eclipse With PyDev. Why Is There Not A Pythonic Emacs?
On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:23 AM, <tutor-requ...@python.org> wrote: > Send Tutor mailing list submissions to > tutor@python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tutor-requ...@python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tutor-ow...@python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tutor digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Setting Up Emacs (Rinu Boney) > 2. Re: Setting Up Emacs (Steven D'Aprano) > 3. Re: Setting Up Emacs (Tim Johnson) > 4. Re: Setting Up Emacs (Alan Gauld) > 5. Re: Setting Up Emacs (Tim Johnson) > 6. Re: Method to create small and simple database (Joel M.) > 7. Re: Setting Up Emacs (Bill Allen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:53:04 +0530 > From: Rinu Boney <rinu.mat...@gmail.com> > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] Setting Up Emacs > Message-ID: > <cajtwv12yyow+nb-+cekzwfmp0f3wjkvyerzfoe1kzctf7dh...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I am New To Python. > I Would Like To Setup Emacs As A Python IDE. > I Don't Know Anything About Emacs! > Can Someone Help Me ? > Thanks. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/attachments/20111030/ad7f346e/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:25:23 +1100 > From: Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Setting Up Emacs > Message-ID: <4ead6c63.6020...@pearwood.info> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Rinu Boney wrote: > > I am New To Python. > > I Would Like To Setup Emacs As A Python IDE. > > I Don't Know Anything About Emacs! > > If you don't know anything about emacs, and you don't know anything > about Python, why do you want to make things ten times more difficult by > learning a new language AND the most heavyweight, complex editor at the > same time? > > I recommend you use a more friendly editor. You haven't mentioned what > operating system you are using. If you are using Linux with the KDE > desktop, I recommend you use a good, modern GUI editor like Kate as your > editor. Other people might prefer different editors, but I've come to > like Kate the best. > > Personally, I recommend against IDEs. I find that they are > over-complicated and get in the way. I've seen too many people > struggling because their IDE changes the way their code works. I > recommend you keep your code open in an editor, an interactive session > open in a good xterm, and a second xterm tab open for running your > script. That's my preference. > > But, if you still want to use Emacs as a Python IDE, have you tried > searching for "python emacs ide"? > > https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=python%20emacs%20ide > > > > -- > Steven > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 07:53:15 -0800 > From: Tim Johnson <t...@akwebsoft.com> > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Setting Up Emacs > Message-ID: <20111030155315.gb10...@akwebsoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > * Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info> [111030 07:40]: > > Rinu Boney wrote: > > >I am New To Python. > > >I Would Like To Setup Emacs As A Python IDE. > > >I Don't Know Anything About Emacs! > > > > If you don't know anything about emacs, and you don't know anything > > about Python, why do you want to make things ten times more difficult by > > learning a new language AND the most heavyweight, complex editor at the > > same time? > > > > I recommend you use a more friendly editor. You haven't mentioned what > > operating system you are using. If you are using Linux with the KDE > > desktop, I recommend you use a good, modern GUI editor like Kate as your > > editor. Other people might prefer different editors, but I've come to > > like Kate the best. > > I've used emacs extensively in the past and now use vim. They are > both rewarding to use, but to support Steven, it could be a > nightmare for Rinu to to learn both python and emacs or vim. > > I believe that idle is part of the python distro on both linux and > darwin (Mac OSX). That is worth consideration, I would think. > > If Rinu is on windows, there is pythonwin and there is an > extremely good, well supported and easy-to-learn shareware editor > called Boxer. I would recommend either to any programmer in a > windows environment. > > > Personally, I recommend against IDEs. I find that they are > > over-complicated and get in the way. I've seen too many people > > struggling because their IDE changes the way their code works. I > > recommend you keep your code open in an editor, an interactive session > > open in a good xterm, and a second xterm tab open for running your > > script. That's my preference. > > Yeah. What he said. > > -- > Tim > tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com > http://www.akwebsoft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 17:20:18 +0000 > From: Alan Gauld <alan.ga...@btinternet.com> > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Setting Up Emacs > Message-ID: <j8k10i$ma2$1...@dough.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 30/10/11 13:23, Rinu Boney wrote: > > I am New To Python. > > Welcome to the group. > Do you know any other languages or are you new to programming > as well? > > > I Would Like To Setup Emacs As A Python IDE. > > I Don't Know Anything About Emacs! > > If you don;t know emacs then don;t bother. > emacs is a fantastic editor and general user environment but > it is big and complex and takes long time to gt "just right" > for you. > > If you were already an emacs user I'd say go right ahead, > but as a newbie learning Python will be a big enough challenge. > > If you are used to IDEs like MS Visual Studio or Eclipse then > the best bet is to use Eclipse with the PyDev plug-in. > (Or Netbeans if you prefer it to Eclipse, I've used and > liked both, and they both support Python well) > > If you are on a Mac you can use the Apple XDeveloper > tools (XCode etc) or install Eclipse. > > If you are not a died in the wool IDE user then try something > simpler like IDLE or Pythonwin for Windows (But the fact you > even mention Emacs suggests you are not using Windows) > > Or go for the minimalist approach suggested by Stephen. > Many of us(including me) favor 3 separate windows > - a text editor to type the final code > - an interpreter to try out ideas and snippets > - A vanilla OS prompt to test the "production" code > > Occasionally you may open a debugger window too, > but mostly in Python you don't need that. > > HTH, > > -- > Alan G > Author of the Learn to Program web site > http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 09:41:48 -0800 > From: Tim Johnson <t...@akwebsoft.com> > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Setting Up Emacs > Message-ID: <20111030174148.gc9...@akwebsoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > * Alan Gauld <alan.ga...@btinternet.com> [111030 09:26]: > > On 30/10/11 13:23, Rinu Boney wrote: > > >I am New To Python. > > > > Welcome to the group. > > Do you know any other languages or are you new to programming > > as well? > > > > >I Would Like To Setup Emacs As A Python IDE. > > >I Don't Know Anything About Emacs! > > > > If you are on a Mac you can use the Apple XDeveloper > > tools (XCode etc) or install Eclipse. > > If you are not a died in the wool IDE user then try something > > simpler like IDLE or Pythonwin for Windows (But the fact you > > even mention Emacs suggests you are not using Windows) > > IDLE came pre-installed on my mac. I believe that I had to add it > on my ubuntu PC. > > -- > Tim > tim at tee jay forty nine dot com or akwebsoft dot com > http://www.akwebsoft.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 15:33:23 -0400 > From: "Joel M." <joelmonte...@gmail.com> > To: Tutor Python <tutor@python.org> > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Method to create small and simple database > Message-ID: > <CAKLZg_yZ=z4aieuffcg35ozhgmji3wye3svzzmat0esfgo-...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Alan Gauld <alan.ga...@btinternet.com > >wrote: > > > On 29/10/11 19:28, Joel Montes de Oca wrote: > > > > After looking at the Python module documentation for sqlite3 > >> (http://docs.python.org/**library/sqlite3.html#module-**sqlite3< > http://docs.python.org/library/sqlite3.html#module-sqlite3>), > >> it seems > >> to me it's the best way to make the small database that I am looking > for. > >> > > > > SQLlite is a great way to build small scale SQL databases. > > However for this app I'd probably second the advice to use shelve. > > Shelve acts like a dictionary in a file so you can associate a list of > > items with a user very very easily. > > > > > > > > Now I need to look for a basic tutorial on constructing a simple > >> database (tables, rows, keys) and how to connect all that stuff > >> together. If anyone happens to know of a good intro tutorial or > >> documentation to database concepts, please forward it to me. > >> > > > > You can try the database topic in my tutorial(see below). > > It's only available for Python v2 at present but the translation > > to Python v3 (if that's what you are using) is trivial. > > > > -- > > Alan G > > Author of the Learn to Program web site > > http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ > > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org > > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/tutor< > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor> > > > > > > I will take a look into Shelve and Alan's tutorial sometime this coming > week. > > Keep the suggestions coming if there's more. :) > > -Joel M. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/attachments/20111030/dd2ee420/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 21:52:40 -0500 > From: Bill Allen <walle...@gmail.com> > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Setting Up Emacs > Message-ID: > <cacrcdxsvqrkgmqc2xtnubxyavzzswzor7xhfbstdnxpfv3v...@mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > On 30/10/11 13:23, Rinu Boney wrote: > > > >I am New To Python. > > > > > > > > >I Would Like To Setup Emacs As A Python IDE. > > > >I Don't Know Anything About Emacs! > > > > > > > As others have also mentioned, try IDLE. It comes packaged with Python > for Windows and is easily available for Python on Linux. It will do most > of what you really, really need. > > --Bill > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/tutor/attachments/20111030/ce73f11c/attachment.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor > > > End of Tutor Digest, Vol 92, Issue 123 > ************************************** >
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