On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Eric Hamiter <ehami...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not sure if this is the right place for this, since this is a tutor list, > but I think it is because it involves learning Python and the application of > knowledge. > > I've just started learning it as my initial programming language as of two > months ago. I like to think I'm making steady progress, and I now understand > the most rudimentary level of the basics. What I keep reading is how Python > is most powerful on server side applications, in the cloud, so to speak. The > portability of Python is also widely evangelized. > > Here's my problem with this so far-- I can write a basic script, have it > take in data, rearrange it, and spit it back out. Following along in a book, > I can write a basic GUI or game. It's all wine and roses on my Windows > laptop, where I have everything configured just right, with all of the > modules in place where they need to be. > > Moving this to a server or even another computer so far has been a seemingly > impossible task. There's a lot of documentation for CGI scripting (which is > now frowned upon, with every page recommending looking into wsgi), and there > have been applications devoted to transforming scripts into Windows > executables (py2exe, etc.) but it seems like this is much more confusing > than need be, and I can't get them to work regardless. When I try and google > for solutions, choosing any terms like "web" or "server" point me to massive > framework solutions like Django or Pylons, which seem extraordinarily > complex for what I want. > > Specific examples: I have a livewires/pygame GUI game I wrote along with > folowing the book "Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner" and it > works great on my laptop. I tried installing Python/pygame on a work > computer and copying my scripts over, but it endlessly fails with errors so > obtuse I can't troubleshoot. I'm not even sure if I have the correct modules > installed here. Should they be under "Lib" or "libs" or "includes"? Trying > to use py2exe fails because I can't figure out how to include non-scripts in > the final program, like .pngs or .jpgs. How would I even begin to put this > on a server? I'm clueless. > > Another program I am using on my laptop is a convenience script-- it takes > in a text list of groceries, and spits out a formatted list based on aisle > locations so I can get in and out of the grocery store faster. My laptop is > the only place I can use this. I've tried using multiple CGI examples, and > it always results in a "File Not Found" error. Not even sure how I can debug > it. I can have the server do a simple one-line of printing "Hello World" but > anything more complicated than that makes it implode. > > The most frustrating thing is how flippantly experienced programmers say to > use Django for Python web apps because it's so simple to use. It took me a > good half-day to just install it, and unless I'm writing a sample code or if > I want to clone a newspaper service, I have absolutely no idea how I would > use it efficiently. I want to learn the basics before running off to learn a > new framework. I'm trying to find good resources so I can continue self > teaching, but everything I find seems to be tailored to two classes: the > complete newbie who doesn't know how to print a line, or an advanced > programmer who is using list comprehension within a recursion with multiple > modules. > > In short, is there a "simple" method for putting python scripts onto a > server that I do not host myself? I've seen web2py and it looks like it > would be more my speed, but support is lacking and doesn't seem too > compatible with my host. I use Dreamhost, and they are very adaptable and > configurable, but so far I can't find an easy way to accomplish what I want. > > Thanks for reading this far if you did! I welcome any suggestions > whatsoever. > > Eric > > > _______________________________________________ > Tutor maillist - tu...@python.org > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor > >
Get a linux hosting account, and a web address, most linux hosting comes with python, so practice in the 'cloud'. _______________________________________________ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor
