thank you Luke, It's a bit more complicated than that, all the images are in one massive jpg file similar to those in http://cdn.nhl.com/ducks/images/upload/2008/06/FanPhotos3.jpg also the joystick is a usb module so I didn't think that would work. with regards to the wasd keys there is a glitch that you have to keep tapping them. I also might be able to get the usb adapter in tome so would like to use the arrow keys as a backup. btw do you have any info on the pygame.movie module as i would like to show a YouTube vid first then go immediately into the main program, but the system must wait until I am ready to start which I would signal with the space bar. sorry for being a pain. but thanks a bunch cyberjacob
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