Thanks.

Interesting. I went to the web site and thought I'd find out about how NNTP works. I clicked the line, and nothing happened, so I explored some other info, and came back here. As I opened your msg, I wizard showed up from SeaMonkey. I clicked cancel, and then realized that must be what I needed to get to gname, etc. Slow going at almost noon here.

As I wander around the internet trying to get info from Lundh, New Mexico, and other sites, I wonder if, in particular New Mexico is not using the "new" Tkinter. How would I know?

Still waiting for the wizard.

ALAN GAULD wrote:
Here is the news about a new Tk in Python:
(Posted on the TkDocs web site - the home of Tk)

================

February 03, 2009

Ttk support in Python.

Guilherme Polo passed along the great news that his pyttk module has been accepted into Python's standard library.  

That means we should see pyttk generally available with Python 2.7 and 3.1 (both still in development).  You can see the current docs here.  And of course, this is something I was waiting for before updating TkDocs with Python info and examples.

Thanks for all your hard work Guilherme!


====================
 
Note this seems to be a recent web site and they
are still building a lot of the documentation,
but it looks like it should turn into a very
useful Tk resource.

As for the Tkinter mailing list. You can either
watch it via the gmane news feed (which  I do)
and using your preferred news reader subscribe
to:

gmane.comp.python.tkinter

Or on the web at:

http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.tkinter

or go to

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tkinter-discuss

to sign up for the emails.


HTH,


Alan Gauld
Author of the Learn To Program website
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/



From: Wayne Watson <sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net>
To: ALAN GAULD <alan.ga...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009 12:25:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Tutor] Python and Tkinter Programming by Grayson--New Version?

How do I get to that mail list?

I see no evidence of a "new" Tkinter in my internet Googling. Maybe it's going by a new name?

ALAN GAULD wrote:
Tk is far from dead.

Try the Tkinter mailing list, it is at
least as busy as the tutor one. And the
Tcl/Tk side of things has had a new
lease of life over the past two years
with a complete re-architecture of Tk
resulting in the new native-look widgets.

We just need that new found activity to
translate to Tkinter...
 
Alan Gauld
Author of the Learn To Program website
http://www.alan-g.me.uk/



From: Wayne Watson <sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net>
To: Alan Gauld <alan.ga...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009 2:24:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Tutor] Python and Tkinter Programming by Grayson--New Version?

Working with Tkinter is like trying to dig through fossils. So much out there is old or incomplete. It's like the Tk species went extinct. The trail seems to end in 2005. I think I read it's not quite dead, and a newer looking is coming.

Alan Gauld wrote:
"Wayne Watson" <sierra_mtnv...@sbcglobal.net> wrote

I've poked around at the pieces of the book in Subject, which are on the web
It was published in 2000, first ed. It looks quite good, and certainly is big,

About a third of it is reference material. Not a bad thing, I use it a lot, but
other sources have the same stuff. A lot is PMW which although still active
I think, is no longer the only add on toolkit. Indeed Tix is now partof the
standard library and adds a lot of the same sort of things. (Tabbed notebooks
etc)

The other oddity is a fair portion of the book is taken up with building
photo-realistic UIs. This is not something I've ever found a need for!
It is quite impressive but of distinctly limitedvalue for most programmers
IMHO.

I'd like to think the author is going to produce another version.

I've seen no signs of that. And although some of the newer widgets
are not included very little of the book is out of date.

OTOH if you just need a reference the "Tcl/Tk in a Nutshell" by O'Reilly
might suit just as well and is available very cheaply second hand
on Amazon... It is my second most used Tk source. (after Lundh's
online reference, Grayson is my third!) It also covers Tix.

Alan G.

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