> I don't think the installation by default would be a good idea.
> This is distro land, and I think we should promote using the distro packages.
> People wanting to install venv and pip know how to do this.
But pyvenv is, since release 3.4, part of the Python standard library. It's not 
a separated tool or something like that. It's like if the Python os module is 
shipped in a separated package, and users must install it before importing it 
in a program.
And I think that, for a module which is meant to be in the standard library, 
"but on Ubuntu you should install the python3-venv package before" isn't a 
great thing, is it?

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Title:
  pyvenv fails due to mising ensurepip module

Status in python3-defaults package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in python3.4 package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released
Status in python3.4 package in Debian:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  Hello,

  I noticed the following

  # fails
  python3.4 -m venv --clear python-venv
  Error: Command '['.../external/python-venv/bin/python3.4', '-Im', 
'ensurepip', '--upgrade', '--default-pip']' returned non-zero exit status 1

  # works, but no pip
  python3.4 -m venv --clear --without-pip python-venv

  Thank you

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