Marking this as released, as the behavior changed a while ago to "move" the autobit state of oldlibs on removal, rather than just marking the dependencies as manual; option APT::Move-Autobit-Sections in 01autoremove.
** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to apt in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1075366 Title: Never-MarkAuto-Sections:: oldlibs gives wrong behavior Status in apt package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: The /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove file includes the following config: Never-MarkAuto-Sections { [...] "oldlibs"; "restricted/oldlibs"; "universe/oldlibs"; "multiverse/oldlibs"; }; This was added back in 2010, with the following rationale: message: add "oldlibs" to the APT::Never-MarkAuto-Sections as its used for transitional packages This replaced a previous provisional 'transitional' section. I don't understand exactly why this was done, but it seems very incorrect to me. The effect of Never-MarkAuto-Sections is to mark the *dependencies* of a package in this section as manually installed. This means that if you're using the historically accurate meaning of the 'oldlibs' section, any library dependencies of an old library will be marked manually installed, and thus will never be autoremoved when the old library will no longer be needed. E.g.: $ apt-cache show libblas3gf Package: libblas3gf Priority: optional Section: libs Installed-Size: 40 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com> Original-Maintainer: Debian Science Team <debian-science-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org> Architecture: all Source: blas Version: 1.2.20110419-5 Depends: libblas3 Filename: pool/main/b/blas/libblas3gf_1.2.20110419-5_all.deb Size: 2920 MD5sum: fb2afb44fdbdaf81d4adac5a509aac68 SHA1: be8056468c7b9668d2f22913853b8babc82af527 SHA256: 067cf1cdbb79372dfb838d534558cb6af29efc9d5d9765b639f9f39026dd2c42 Description-en: Transitional package for libblas Several minor changes to the C interface have been incorporated. One can maintain both versions on a system simultaneously to aid in the transition. Homepage: http://www.netlib.org/blas/ Description-md5: 8bf7be122ddac6284a83fe69649495b3 Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug Origin: Ubuntu Supported: 18m Task: ubuntu-usb, kubuntu-full, kubuntu-active-full, edubuntu-desktop-kde, edubuntu-desktop-gnome, edubuntu-usb, ubuntustudio-video, ubuntustudio-publishing, ubuntustudio-photography, ubuntustudio-graphics $ apt-mark showmanual | grep libblas3 libblas3 libblas3gf $ I think the *intent* was to ensure that when a package becomes a transitional package, it can then be removed without causing the real package that is the target of the transition to also be removed. But I don't think this is a correct interpretation of the 'oldlibs' section; packages in oldlibs are generally not leaf packages, and their dependencies are generally real dependencies rather than dependencies for purpose of a transition. Can we revisit this use of oldlibs? FWIW, we seem to be doing a poor job in general of getting packages correctly marked for autoremoval. On my desktop system: $ for pkg in $(apt-mark showmanual) ; do grep-status -FPackage -X $pkg -a -FSection -X libs -sPackage; done | uniq | wc -l 889 $ I don't think those are all due to this particular bug, but I'm pretty sure they're almost all wrong. :/ To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1075366/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp