jarnos, The reason why I responded first/primarily about "apt-get autoremove" and "purge-old-kernels" is that those are listed at the top of the page and are the things that a regular-ish user could feel confident doing.
I do not feel that the idea of running unattended-upgrade from the command line is likely to be helpful to many users. Among other things, that presumes that the user always gets in there before being prompted by the automatic update GUI program (which, by the way, doesn't say "I am going to install a kernel"; it says "I have 192 MB of security updates that I would like you to approve", unless you dive into details). As for un-clogging, I did in fact read the "Safely Removing Old Kernels" text. What I wrote was "I personally can manually grub around and remove kernels, so this is only annoying, not show-stopping, but I think we have lots of evidence that it is show-stopping for some people". I continue to believe that. I did not see a response from you to what I genuinely believe is the single core issue: anything (unattended-upgrades, GUI install widget, apt, flying spaghetti monster) that installs a kernel without deleting a kernel will eventually overflow /boot. Then there is a second issue, which is that because a variety of things have installed too many kernels on the machines of people who cannot be expected to manually delete kernels, there should be some automatically- run solution (perhaps prompting the user for confirmation for safety purposes) that deletes long-stale kernels that no current automatic thing considers itself responsible for. What I see is: (1) new users keep showing up because their machines have broken, (2) people keep proposing new solutions that are different than the existing solutions. To me this says that there is still a real problem (for some people, not for me, but I don't think the aspiration of the Ubuntu project is for machines running Ubuntu to work only for expert users). Thanks for taking the time to respond! I am not responding because I am personally troubled by this issue, but because I believe that the problem has not been solved for regular end users. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Touch seeded packages, which is subscribed to unattended-upgrades in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1357093 Title: Kernels not autoremoving, causing out of space error on LVM or Encrypted installation or on any installation, when /boot partition gets full Status in unattended-upgrades: New Status in unattended-upgrades package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: Currently if one chooses to use LVM or encrypted install, a /boot partition is created of 236Mb Once kernel updates start being released this partition soon fills until people are left unable to upgrade. While you and I might know that we need to watch partition space, many of the people we have installing think that a windows disk is a disk and not a partition, education is probably the key - but in the meantime support venues keep needing to deal with the fact the partition is too small and/or old kernels are not purged as new ones install. For workaround and sytem repair, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unattended-upgrades/+bug/1357093/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages Post to : touch-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~touch-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
