@townsend

"First an foremost, particularly on the desktop, Unity 8 should have
some native way of viewing files on USB devices. There is not a very
usable native file manager available on Unity 8 desktop, so that is
problem number 1. Hopefully when full Gtk support is added and the
ability to easily discover Gtk apps in U8 is implemented, something like
Nautilus will just work."

Thank you for your comments.  I have (and still do) assume that this is par for 
the course. So, from your comments can I safely conclude that it is a matter of 
time when Gtk will be implemented - that this problem will be solved. Could you 
provide a rough timeline as to when this support feature will be implemented? 
Secondly:- are there any ppas that devs are experimenting with, related to the 
above problem, that we at (U+1) can also use?

"The second problem, since there is not a very usable file manager, is
using a Libertine container with some X file manager. This problem is
probably more difficult to solve because we use unprivileged LXC's for
Libertine on U8 desktop and due to how unprivileged LXC's work, access
to USB (and SD card) file systems via bind mounts, is currently very
difficult to achieve. We've spent time trying to make that work and had
to de-prioritize it due the non-trivial nature of getting something to
work. We are not LXC developers, so trying to get that to work is a very
tall mountain to climb:)"

Yes... thank you for your perspective on this. In one sense it may
defeat the purpose of having a secure container that can access
read/write USB pendrives but in another sense  it should be a hallmark
feature of what Libertine/Containers can provide to mobile devices, IoT
and thin clients. An example would be running a live persistent drive of
Zesty on a thin client - or any thin client because the resources a
container uses is so small as well as the memory and end_users would
still be able to run legacy debian apps through xapps. One may make the
observation that this is a preference or a "wish list" item but I must
emphasize that competition is fierce and ubuntu/canonical is in a unique
position to make this convergence happen. We have to prioritize this bug
and get this working while the iron is hot. Otherwise it may alienate
many users and prospects because sound, trusted, familiar and classical
features are absent and not included. If we exclude familiarity we
infringe on userspace. Maybe it is a mountain that must be scaled :)

regards..

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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1646655

Title:
  unity8 provides no way or means to access information on USB stick

Status in Canonical System Image:
  New
Status in content-hub package in Ubuntu:
  New
Status in unity8 package in Ubuntu:
  Incomplete
Status in unity8-desktop-session package in Ubuntu:
  New

Bug description:
  Trying several different methods there is just no way that unity8 or
  any xapps in a container will allow access to information on a USB
  stick.

  entrical@ventrical-MS-7850:~$ inxi -Fxz
  System:    Host: ventrical-MS-7850 Kernel: 4.8.0-27-generic x86_64 (64 bit 
gcc: 6.2.0)
             Console: tty 24
             Distro: Ubuntu Zesty Zapus (development branch)
  Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: MSI model: B85-G41 PC Mate(MS-7850) v: 1.0
             UEFI: American Megatrends v: V2.8 date: 07/17/2014
  CPU:       Dual core Intel Pentium G3240 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
             flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 12399
             clock speeds: max: 3100 MHz 1: 799 MHz 2: 877 MHz
  Graphics:  Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated 
Graphics Controller
             bus-ID: 00:02.0
             Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
             tty size: 68x26 Advanced Data: N/A out of X
  Audio:     Card-1 Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio Controller
             driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
             Card-2 Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio 
Controller
             driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
             Sound: ALSA v: k4.8.0-27-generic
  Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
Controller
             driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: e000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
             IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
             mac: <filter>
  Drives:    HDD Total Size: 160.3GB (30.4% used)
             ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_MZ7PA128 size: 128.0GB
             ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: PDM09_32G_B9J2.0 size: 32.3GB

             ID-1: / size: 113G used: 23G (22%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
             ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.15GB used: 0.01GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3
  RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
  Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C
             Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
  Info:      Processes: 233 Uptime: 1:25 Memory: 1300.0/3813.7MB
             Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 6.2.1
             Client: Shell (bash 4.4.51) inxi: 2.3.4
  ventrical@ventrical-MS-7850:~$

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 17.04
  Package: unity8 8.15+17.04.20161129-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.8.0-27.29-generic 4.8.1
  Uname: Linux 4.8.0-27-generic x86_64
  ApportVersion: 2.20.3-0ubuntu8
  Architecture: amd64
  CurrentDesktop: Unity:Unity8
  Date: Thu Dec  1 19:59:16 2016
  InstallationDate: Installed on 2016-10-06 (56 days ago)
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Alpha amd64 (20161006)
  SourcePackage: unity8
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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