-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/17/2016 09:58 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> OK, they're naive and trusting. For which "sheep" is common >> metaphor. > > Meaning that, for TBB, they're going to click the big "Download" > button that probably is automatically linked to the binary for the > OS detected by js on the Tor download page. So:1. Click the big > "Download" button to download a 47.3 megabyte file 2. Click the > icon to Install3. Run TBB > >> Running VirtualBox and Whonix is hardly "vastly more complex". > So:1. Click the big "Download" button on Whonix' frontpage.2. Click > "Download" or "Virtualbox" in the row marked for Windows3. Download > a 1.7 gigabyte file4. Download a 2.0 gigabyte file5. Realize that > they don't have virtual box installed.6. Download 115 megabyte > virtualbox installer for Windows.7. Install Virtualbox8. Run > Virtualbox9. Navigate to the Whonix page that tells you what to do > with the two big files they downloaded earlier10. Start > virtualbox11. Import appliance12. Navigate and select Whonix > Gateway image13. Click import, then Agree, then wait...14. Import > applicance again 15. Select Whonix Workstation16. Start Whonix > Gateway and Whonix Workstation17. Wait while the startup scripts > initialize everything, then open the browser in the workstation. > That's two orders of magnitude more data to download, a virtual > machine running two OSes, and three more windows open on the > desktop (counting TBB window itself which is nested in the > workstation window). -Jonathan
Well, pick one of those dudes in jail, and ask whether he would have appreciated the pointer to Whonix ;) > On Saturday, July 16, 2016 11:11 PM, Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> > wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > > On 07/16/2016 08:21 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>> I'm hardly asking for perfection. Just a little heads up for >>> the sheep. >> You're unwilling to even describe non-technical users as human >> beings, yet you want Tor to suggest a vastly more complex >> alternative for them? > > OK, they're naive and trusting. For which "sheep" is common > metaphor. > > Running VirtualBox and Whonix is hardly "vastly more complex". > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXivdtAAoJEGINZVEXwuQ+lRUH/R/sHjOUZWZ6hcA92K8G+1A9 > vU5xmgFaOQUczERi1NCnBWdD57EMS+ci0VTYwRsORq+R/iLROfI7GkqDLIJAjBCE > BEcb4wmg6CyKeqQj52EVtTURJJfrcnwW8CS7tiuqwnE1xP9olB2DlqMdOhCWdH3W > yP9KwDe6MprRPTuqJywRiwfSPEKcD4p/n3k/stcWa73lrVHdYSKOfwT/PropD9ED > myQaxrRBBuRvmNWlAH+XhsQkFRxCTagc+F1DDJPaqRPGlAYFd5qMZIZ6g+XbXjO5 > mkUUqC6kzM+/CKwsTj3msL6IH90kWqXnKocypVChOS78NB1JkF44VXMKpjrtguc= > =ArE5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXi8GrAAoJEGINZVEXwuQ+7SQH/A4hLbDGNiyNMWc50ELd+7Gy 5u6AUt0K/A45wNPXgnjYh8t+n9yPm0Yo2zzUo7fOCHO/Wy3xrF3sBOg+IHrU7NUk qZlkHTCUTD1x7Wx+dfqZVcN8JFeByqCvKjpMUa/nPcRgvymw9T5vKTVfqv0JGQa7 /hiWoBMBxkAjExMq4ySaxyGZGPR3qMV/6F6h5XhNT1N1kUINR0zDhmHZ7tZppJPA UQ1tIXC7EwYU4YOxYqTDvfxDf2AfftDpjDoQBJ0t06VBL54bzdwcY9ImRXrpFYR7 1qNfD3LvrF6RLUtCqnZwYyEqaZVFJ8+gGW3DY2fXTPnNCFldypIfRlxqugNH5a4= =2egF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
