Fuck you On Jun 5, 2016 18:44, <tor-talk-requ...@lists.torproject.org> wrote:
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Re: Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last tweet? > (notfrien...@riseup.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 18:16:42 -0400 > From: notfrien...@riseup.net > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror? > Message-ID: <790c04884c9c8d9fc54f9ea1a0817...@riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 2016-06-05 18:13, df. wrote: > > Nice speech, it looks like you put some time and effort in to it but > > it would make a lot more sense to make a case against someone by > > presenting factual evidence against that person and not trying to make > > absurd comparisons on a mailing list between two things that have > > almost nothing in common. > > > > Jacob Appelbaum has the ability to accept or deny these allegations, > > if he denies them then a court can find him guilty (and give him an > > adequate punishment) or the can find him innocent but all of this is > > based on evidence. Really do not think your long winded speeches and > > obvious hatred for this is proving anything. > > > > Anyway I respect your opinion no matter how funny and absurd I find it > > be. > > > > Can we not just move on to other topics? This guy is not even with the > > Tor project anymore. > > > > > > > > > > jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions: > >> http://ethi.cx/forty.html > >> > >> For Forty Years... > >> > >> Joe Paterno ? praised college football coach and idol to hundreds > >> of thousands of people ? continued in silence, allowing Jerry > >> Sandusky to nurture a mechanism that leveraged the Penn State > >> football program to prey on his victims, which totals 32 at the > >> time of writing. Forty years, Paterno continued the conspiracy of > >> silence until his dying days, disgraced in the eyes of the sane and > >> a mistreated God to the idol worshipers, sycophants and zealots. > >> They rioted in the streets, refused to listen to evidence, as more > >> and more piled in daily. They screamed and cursed the victims, > >> media and anyone calling Paterno an enabler. > >> > >> In 2012 the famed Statue of Joe Paterno was taken down. After years > >> of fighting, Penn State football fans took it into their own hands > >> and made two replica statues: one to give to the Paterno family, > >> the other to take to Penn State football games. One of the fans who > >> constructed the statues commented, ?We are creators. We are not in > >> politics. We are not cops?this is who we are.? > >> > >> This kind of idol worship is terrifying, but very real. > >> > >> The comparison to the Jerry Sandusky scandal and Jacob Appelbaum's > >> may be wild to some people, considering the formers grandiosity, > >> however the similarities are astounding. The predatory behavior > >> exemplified by both men is that of asserting themselves into places > >> of power and exploiting their positions to take advantage of those > >> who admired them or felt safe with. While the many people who have > >> been hurt by Jake, either physically, sexually, emotionally, or > >> professionally are ignored or even attacked by starry-eyed fans who > >> believe their heroes can do no wrong. The statue of ioerror was > >> being built through the myth of heroism in the face of tyranny and > >> what better place to provide more building material than the Tor > >> Project. > >> > >> It hasn?t been forty years for the Tor Project, and I?m glad that > >> under new management this issue was addressed and brought to light. > >> While personally knowing a handful of people he has stolen research > >> from or tried to squeeze his way into their research groups, I knew > >> his m.o. and warned anyone that even brought him up. For years. I > >> had no idea of the sexual abuse claims, but in retrospect it makes > >> complete sense. Some people remained silent, while others spoke out > >> and were quickly silenced by the "PROVE IT" brigade. For some > >> people it's not that easy. Proving it isn't the hard part, but > >> reliving the pain, shame, and loss is. > >> > >> However terrible the alleged atrocities committed by Appelbaum, if > >> they ever all come to light, there will still be a large contingent > >> of naysayers, forever trying to pick up their fallen idol to some > >> sort of irredeemable glory. There is no government agenda to > >> discredit him, this isn?t JTRIG or the NSA running a disinformation > >> operation against him, this is simply just a very bad person. > >> > >> The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, > >> it hasn?t been forty years. > >> > > Well it's possible to move on to other topics. It doesn't change the > fact that this COULD harm the tor project's reputation. That's one of my > primary concerns. Even if it is unlikely it's still important. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 16:17:17 -0600 > From: Mirimir <miri...@riseup.net> > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror? > Message-ID: <5754a4ed.4000...@riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > On 06/05/2016 03:52 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > > On Jun 5, 2016 5:37 PM, "jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions" < > > jacobappelbaum....@yandex.com> wrote: > > > >>> The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, it > > hasn?t been forty years. > > > > My dear, > > > > Sorry, I can't believe in someone who is using Jake's own name for > posting > > anonimously articles offending him, his reputation and his work. > > I totally agree. "jacobappelbaum....@yandex.com" is being a jerk. Their > behavior suggests that Jacob is just the target of a witch-hunt. > > > You want to humiliate him. It is being a public lynching, real moral > > harassment. > > Indeed. I'm wondering whether this is one of the Tor haters, leveraging > the situation to amplify the grief. Maybe even playing some Tor devs. > > > Sorry, you are not being a victim. Now, in this exact moment, you are > > acting just exactly like the people you said that were wrong and it is > > really disgusting. > > > > ** Transparency and coherence, please. ** > > > > I am an old grumpy lady with a pretty strong flu and an even more > terrible > > English, really trying to read everything you post here. I think I > deserve > > a bit more of logic and respect, please. This thing you are doing is > > really offensive not just for Jake, but for my poor neurons too! :(((( > > It's cool to encounter another sane adult :) > > > Cecilia > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 18:22:47 -0400 > From: notfrien...@riseup.net > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Any updates from Tor Project on ioerror? > Message-ID: <a5960ac2456a2c6eacf92b4b6c9cf...@riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 2016-06-05 18:17, Mirimir wrote: > > On 06/05/2016 03:52 PM, Cecilia Tanaka wrote: > >> On Jun 5, 2016 5:37 PM, "jacob appelbaum (ioerror) questions" < > >> jacobappelbaum....@yandex.com> wrote: > >> > >>>> The conspiracy of silence is unravelling around Jake and luckily, it > >> hasn?t been forty years. > >> > >> My dear, > >> > >> Sorry, I can't believe in someone who is using Jake's own name for > >> posting > >> anonimously articles offending him, his reputation and his work. > > > > I totally agree. "jacobappelbaum....@yandex.com" is being a jerk. Their > > behavior suggests that Jacob is just the target of a witch-hunt. > > > >> You want to humiliate him. It is being a public lynching, real moral > >> harassment. > > > > Indeed. I'm wondering whether this is one of the Tor haters, leveraging > > the situation to amplify the grief. Maybe even playing some Tor devs. > > > >> Sorry, you are not being a victim. Now, in this exact moment, you are > >> acting just exactly like the people you said that were wrong and it is > >> really disgusting. > >> > >> ** Transparency and coherence, please. ** > >> > >> I am an old grumpy lady with a pretty strong flu and an even more > >> terrible > >> English, really trying to read everything you post here. I think I > >> deserve > >> a bit more of logic and respect, please. This thing you are doing is > >> really offensive not just for Jake, but for my poor neurons too! > >> :(((( > > > > It's cool to encounter another sane adult :) > > > >> Cecilia > >> > I also agree with this. At the very least the poster could of used his > real name and not used anonymity to harm someone's reputation. I'm not > saying the person doesn't have the right to privacy. At least an alias > or a pseudonym but using the guys name was just wrong. We have to > remember that there are two sides to every story but we also need to > make sure that we make every effort to prove each side and then come to > an agreed upon conclusion. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 17:17:10 -0500 > From: Anthony Papillion <anth...@cajuntechie.org> > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last > tweet? > Message-ID: <51c9eb8d-bcfc-cce0-02b8-18c4c544a...@cajuntechie.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list > actually HEARD from him since then? We have to remember that Jake > comes from a really fucked up childhood. Something like these > allegations could push someone over the edge. > > Anthony > > - -- > OpenPGP Key: 4096R/0x028ADF7453B04B15 > Other Key Info: http://www.cajuntechie.org/p/my-pgp-key.html > XMPP?Jabber: cyp...@chat.cpunk.us > SIP: cajuntec...@sip.linphone.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXVKTmAAoJEAKK33RTsEsVN1gP/0wbuIDZKw8jCcie7+vqJCYg > oicLMnRXvN4cQSP3VwFAU4a3oP8rzUAfcP3TlqTSucEgr03ztKPUsOVApuqgk3GG > 6TqkW9ifcF/aIbdeYZt98zEIzCOtzJ96fOlBc+uXCxVUw5as/bEL1F0f4y93zB9B > QT47LpKc4HcHGgzmpTQ4b9o7RfFBe2d0n4E17DuO7RsR79K4TZWRuzzVbJDzoE4n > ocMFEuRkOiFZdDTlywAcPdXJQ+vjK0Tna0nI0zdNRg2cYeoYjibra8F/bC2ZwutE > oZgRguqJeMVLzSQK9so9Ta4eVszYC3X8FT5gM2Ekq7tZM4a49zrasuesmHM02HDT > bDJNj0ED2CAIjBNLiBndtgKPVmDOBvX0OCs7uyim8jBnETsS3LbYRJuC23D7yxSI > ac7BeS/fCevVEs4Z0qTRhJVb6at3xC/miR9w4xJ2WwVBATkau0llMr+vDXCUxOwo > Rz5p18bHa0dOzNKXhBSdaZpZlbHywJtdYNkQLX+UOGPiICsd1SQgz/dLM1QI2c8z > Je3RsNrFMw4HRhXZICGwZW8xl8ZhkGpOOBhbgUKqrfeFQgdzb3KEjdhGgPh0lQ7A > DhsNtOoZQQSADmwecf0FACIZ9w7/Rf/alvVk8SG/bXPWv8VavyKXeeh0Az54ddXk > LRziD/JGEvoryJJw5DKG > =NIpt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 14:35:35 -0800 > From: I <beatthebasta...@inbox.com> > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS? > Message-ID: <d4ea7c86c91.0000033fbeatthebasta...@inbox.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > What are the current best things to do to a Debian VPS to stop being > puppeted by clever dicks? > > Robert > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 18:40:44 -0400 > From: notfrien...@riseup.net > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Any updates on hardening a Debian VPS? > Message-ID: <031551b67faca7cfbb1b5c2c3d346...@riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On 2016-06-05 18:35, I wrote: > > What are the current best things to do to a Debian VPS to stop being > > puppeted by clever dicks? > > > > Robert > > I have a few suggestions: > > * Use SSH Key Based Authnication only (no password based login) > * Update your software frequently > * Enable IPTables and only allow ports that you utilize, if you have a > static ip address only allow connections to ssh from that ip address > * Enable Tripwire to detect changes to system files > > Good luck with securing your VPS > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2016 18:43:42 -0400 > From: notfrien...@riseup.net > To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Has anyone HEARD from IOError since his last > tweet? > Message-ID: <dc9f4b61575bb70ece1a2b9444991...@riseup.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > On 2016-06-05 18:17, Anthony Papillion wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > The last time IOError tweeted was on 30 May. Has anyone on this list > > actually HEARD from him since then? We have to remember that Jake > > comes from a really fucked up childhood. Something like these > > allegations could push someone over the edge. > > > > Anthony > > > > - -- > > OpenPGP Key: 4096R/0x028ADF7453B04B15 > > Other Key Info: http://www.cajuntechie.org/p/my-pgp-key.html > > XMPP?Jabber: cyp...@chat.cpunk.us > > SIP: cajuntec...@sip.linphone.org > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJXVKTmAAoJEAKK33RTsEsVN1gP/0wbuIDZKw8jCcie7+vqJCYg > > oicLMnRXvN4cQSP3VwFAU4a3oP8rzUAfcP3TlqTSucEgr03ztKPUsOVApuqgk3GG > > 6TqkW9ifcF/aIbdeYZt98zEIzCOtzJ96fOlBc+uXCxVUw5as/bEL1F0f4y93zB9B > > QT47LpKc4HcHGgzmpTQ4b9o7RfFBe2d0n4E17DuO7RsR79K4TZWRuzzVbJDzoE4n > > ocMFEuRkOiFZdDTlywAcPdXJQ+vjK0Tna0nI0zdNRg2cYeoYjibra8F/bC2ZwutE > > oZgRguqJeMVLzSQK9so9Ta4eVszYC3X8FT5gM2Ekq7tZM4a49zrasuesmHM02HDT > > bDJNj0ED2CAIjBNLiBndtgKPVmDOBvX0OCs7uyim8jBnETsS3LbYRJuC23D7yxSI > > ac7BeS/fCevVEs4Z0qTRhJVb6at3xC/miR9w4xJ2WwVBATkau0llMr+vDXCUxOwo > > Rz5p18bHa0dOzNKXhBSdaZpZlbHywJtdYNkQLX+UOGPiICsd1SQgz/dLM1QI2c8z > > Je3RsNrFMw4HRhXZICGwZW8xl8ZhkGpOOBhbgUKqrfeFQgdzb3KEjdhGgPh0lQ7A > > DhsNtOoZQQSADmwecf0FACIZ9w7/Rf/alvVk8SG/bXPWv8VavyKXeeh0Az54ddXk > > LRziD/JGEvoryJJw5DKG > > =NIpt > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > He might need time to himself for now. He has a lot of people talking > about him right now. He probably needs a break. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > tor-talk mailing list > tor-talk@lists.torproject.org > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > > > ------------------------------ > > End of tor-talk Digest, Vol 65, Issue 17 > **************************************** > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
