-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Zenaan Harkness: >> thomas.hluch...@netcologne.de: >>> You have. You might consider that intelligent services have >>> large amounts of resources. If this is a planned attack from a >>> group of interested people, they are able to do so. >> >> so they are all government agents/assets then in a grand >> conspiracy against one person? > > "all"?!! Please! > > Classic dichotomy thinking! "It must be saintliness or abject > evil."
no. it's a logical response to a fallacy. "these people could all be part of a planned attack from a shadowy group of interested people." it's classic fed jacketing which, unfortunately, is an all too common response that need not be humored in such circumstances. >>> Wrong. We have a legal system and a generic rule: someone has >>> to be assumed not guilty until the opposite is proofed. >> >> that rule only applies in a court of law. > > You apply the rules you choose to apply, in your own mind! You are > binding yourself/ your conversation to an unnecessarily extreme > legal think. there is no reason to split up and parse my statement. another common fallacy that is employed against people who speak up, or listen to those who speak up, is "you have found x guilty before he has been proven as such and, thus, are violating x's due process rights." if you use the legal term of "due process," then my initial response is absolutely on point. "that rule only applies in a court of law. if you steal from me and are never taken to court, it's not a violation of "due process" if i call you a thief, nor is it defamation." http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Due+Process+of+Law therefore, when a direct implication of a legal term used in a fallacy that references the finding of guilt, such a fallacy should not be tolerated in the context, since this list is not a court of law. - -- gpg key - 0x2A49578A7291BB34 fingerprint - 63C4 E106 AC6A 5F2F DDB2 3840 2A49 578A 7291 BB34 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQJ8BAEBCgBmBQJXaKdkXxSAAAAAAC4AKGlzc3Vlci1mcHJAbm90YXRpb25zLm9w ZW5wZ3AuZmlmdGhob3JzZW1hbi5uZXQ2M0M0RTEwNkFDNkE1RjJGRERCMjM4NDAy QTQ5NTc4QTcyOTFCQjM0AAoJECpJV4pykbs0pHUP/R4yCfDPLXqwWwCl/nKWDUkH Xo4iK9rtRCK0dPCwMzwWvHbxaxWUQxSh1/mkEXXpkmvytevHq5MeEMBgWnbMROeJ eCRie6J/GfbgEwEXf7qJcPiZ/EO6sIz5XW7nYgNOr1Ol5XQpXKxKsowPQ32lTUgi uNlOfavFh5QA8ckRwI2qfP9VfpOOEw3oayLvm2opZR0Dbwka879zL1oC7C1Gn2bd OrCLuXbT4x1WqBFvi89Hv7ps3RwcDKx88FgV07U15qk0EYCFHo45pKJ+5PNdl8lD VUXJqdIgR4mY7FoZL+5pAkaM9PX+IbdIsBO+Y7S7i/ZxXrQD9d5Rxu5EGjZCee1D blfbceDq3FAKzeS7ARXmJQgrZqtbCcoOVbn9ET+DnuckNardmT54w06tEzXo4mBF vmubFR9WyMHcX33CgbnFV7xoWG/NnGP2WMpb8FO32R00QifHKF3acAWM23Slv8kp yhpsirGqD8MLuQCSBT364SiZKxST1FQ3JO4a+Y+xiwWzEuIfjL5cUBKqesdgeAd+ 39kr0xqAO00bOMUiWgIRiQS3xc/UHfDSmvLm6IN2WGWolnO3CgG6i+xMwXeWt+Wq G+JCD8ZMOe1Q0cFtEYrbZY67ImgQY7V4dhLvgcP9FAd4lx+rVaIXt6lODcHnEMaE cLFkgUypkNTr7pa6sZtW =vqjy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
