-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 06/18/2016 04:09 PM, foodforthou...@sigaint.org wrote: > >>> Things are never black and white, there are always two sides of >>> a story and people are never only good or bad. >>> >>> But was it really our first and foremost concern to find out >>> the "truth"? Is the lesson to be learned, if you will, about >>> who is to blame? About shaming the victims or shaming the >>> alleged perpetrator? About whether or not the "accused" will be >>> found "guilty"? Is an "evidence-based discussion" or "due >>> process" really going to solve the greater issue here?
It's a beautiful thread, and yet I'm cutting here, and going off on a tangent. I've never been Jake's friend, as far as I know. And I've never been part of private discussions with Tor Project staff, and only with a few volunteers, but never about non-technical matters. So anyway, as this tragedy initially unfolded, it was the largely anonymous, and unremittingly strident, quality of the accusations that influenced me most. But now that other Tor devs and activists have told their stories, and now that I've seen various leaked internal documents, I'm convinced that Jake did some serious shit, and had to go. Still, I'm left with a poor impression of just about everyone involved. I don't mean to blame anyone. But damn, the Tor community during the past few years comes across as a soap opera! And the code that came out of that soap opera is what people are counting on? Seriously? But OK, maybe they "do good work". <SNIP> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJXZc3EAAoJEGINZVEXwuQ++R0H/200pmsP4HZOSgRXpMLPRldn ZKzJ+bZQp3f1+P6uoTLRl6L9lc385Dbqf7BKnmzv7QR6Jv9B3USoiToDawIWDs3z N0WtnDPHvbUQhXTinrNSX6Zngn0oVAFJl497JnR4ZLiWJvcWUTErV/Ycac6dM7OU Eo+PxtoiD3a42zWNYKChyMfZY8UVqd/5E0S1AMGgawsAq4lNoukyCJyMIoVEY/cL gsDjwjTuFaGW5KXkg9HsT1XTkEKQxtAn+/O5iCBKZ+tBnNV73cFvwcblwKLTCyZF RWnTixT47PDAvzwacwmIIU9Zlhd1kpO7WDz4Bs3bscGCDVlUyTMV66ZeC8WswCw= =yFcq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk