On 03/04/2015 06:33 PM, Juan wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 15:33:28 -0500 > "Lee Malek" <leema...@safe-mail.net> wrote: > >> 99% of censorship happens on blog comments. This kind of project >> would help to force an open dialog. > > > Yes it is a good idea. As a matter of fact I vaguely remember > a browser addon that would let people do exactly that : you > could add comments to websites and the comments were not stored > on the site but on...a different server run by the people who > created the addon? I never really investigated it. > > To make it 'censorship resistent' the comments would have to be > stored in a freenet-like database. Actually, all you need is a > browser plugin that can store content in freenet. You don't > need tor.
It's been done, using alt.privacy, to "fight censorship" on Wilders Security Forums. Here's a little taste: | On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:20:36 +0200 (CEST), Anne Onime wrote: | | > Simply The Best wrote: | >> I got tossed off Wilders Security Forum. I will pay to have someone | >> hack the hell out of that place. I need to know who Low Water Mark | >> is and who PooseyII is (I'm sure it is Ira Silverstein). | >> | >> Go to the forum and contact LockBox with your offer. he will email | >> me securely. | > | > Sorry to hear about your luck. | > | > I've run afoul of their jack-booted Admins over there before, for | > little or no reason. | > | > Tell you what though,I think you're spot on. There are more sock | > puppets over there than a medieval puppet show. | > | > And PooseyII sure the hell looks like one of them. | > Ari Silverstein? Hehe. No doubt. | | Not Ari, his son, Ira Silverstein, I have him pegges for sure, | that's when LowWaterMark told me to either suck his jack or he | would boot me off. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/alt.privacy/mxuKB11LGPs/PBYxzv-wypcJ And it'll probably be online as long as Google is. >> If we aren't going on the offensive against censorship we will lose >> eventually. The power is in the hands of those who control the >> message. And those who control the media control the message. This >> would allow us to break through the shit and get a counter-message >> out right on their own websites. >> >> There is a way to accomplish this. >> >> Also, we need to start thinking about message control, not just >> governments blocking certain sites. The elites fear the internet and >> anonymity because of the possibility of losing control of the >> message/ the dialog ,whatever you want to call it. >> >> Putting the message in the hands of the people is the best thing that >> could ever happen for US and the worst thing for them. >> >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> From: Juan <juan....@gmail.com> >> Apparently from: tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org >> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tor project idea for internet comments >> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 17:26:32 -0300 >> >>> On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 14:11:33 -0500 >>> "Lee Malek" <leema...@safe-mail.net> wrote: >>> >>>> This has nothing to do with people censoring tor users and >>>> everything to do with normal blogs censoring normal users because >>>> they don't like their comments. I am thinking mainly of the USA >>>> here. This will be a problem as time progresses. >>> >>> >>> Don't bother. The party line here is to 'fight' for >>> 'freedom' in places where the american imperialist military has >>> problems gathering 'intelligence'. >>> >>> Prime example : A country like china is firewalled so the >>> pentagon can't spy on the chinese internet directly. Hence, >>> tor. >>> >>> And of course, in a place like the US you're going to find >>> extensive censorship in 'public' and 'private' websites. >>> Hell that is American Freedom! In a united state people should be >>> free to censor any kind of disent. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> This allows sharing of information directly on news sites, safely >>>> and anonymously, completely circumventing their censoring of other >>>> political views. How is this not the place for something like >>>> this? >>>> >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> From: michael ball <michaelballris...@gmail.com> >>>> Apparently from: tor-talk-boun...@lists.torproject.org >>>> To: tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >>>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] New Tor project idea for internet comments >>>> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 11:39:05 -0700 >>>> >>>>> This isn't technically feasible-- for example, censored users in >>>>> countries with slow Internet speeds (Iran, Cuba, Syria) would be >>>>> unable to connect to the network by being forced to relay >>>>> connections if they install the browser plugin. The Tor network >>>>> relies on volunteers who have the ability to quickly and safely >>>>> relay traffic to do so, and users who do not have those >>>>> abilities are not at a disadvantage. >>>>> >>>>> Tor developers, community members and volunteers could better >>>>> spend the time creating this system for something that yields >>>>> more results, like actually encouraging the websites who censor >>>>> Tor users to not do so-- they should rather use a CAPTCHA >>>>> system or another form of human verification (that does not >>>>> break anonymity). >>>>> >>>>>> So many news website block comments they dont like these days. >>>>> >>>>> This isn't something new or exclusive to Tor users. Anyone who >>>>> creates a website with a comment system can censor and prune the >>>>> comments they don't agree with. I do agree, a separate comment >>>>> system would be great at fighting the censorship by websites, >>>>> but it isn't something the Tor developers should focus on. >>>>> >>>>> Good idea, but not exactly the right place. Thanks for the >>>>> idea, and welcome to the Tor mailing list! >>>>> -- >>>>> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >>>>> To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >>>>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >>> >>> -- >>> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >>> To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
