On 01/30/2015 05:27 AM, Squeak wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Thanks for the prompt replies, they are really helpful. The image you > posted Bill Berry was especially illuminating, thanks! > > So VPN -> Tor is what I'm currently doing with Tunnelblick and TBB, but > could somebody detail how and with which programs you would achieve Tor > -> VPN please? I'm having a little trouble visualising how that would > work.
With TBB, the SocksPort is 127.0.0.1:9150. So in order to route the VPN through Tor, you add two options to your Tunnelblick configuration: socks-proxy 127.0.0.1 9150 /some-path/up socks-proxy-retry The "up" (user-password) file is undocumented, and doesn't actually need to contain valid information, just two arbitrary strings: foo bar > A follow-up question about the Tunnelblick set up, if someone does > directly attack my connection and somehow manages to crack the VPN > encryption they are only going to see that I'm using Tor. Is that correct? Yes, they'll just see encrypted connections to Tor entry guards. > Thanks again! > > Squeak > > Ben Tasker: >> VPN + Tor may also be useful if you're on a connection where you definitely >> don't want your local ISP (or perhaps someone else on/with access to the >> same network) to see that you're using Tor. >> >> In this case, the ISP may not be a BT or a Verizon, but a hotel wireless >> provider, employer, starbucks etc. >> >> In that instance, the local ISP might also object to a VPN, of course, but >> generally speaking a VPN (or an SSH tunnel) is generally seen as 'OK'. >> >> What you're doing there, though, is shifting the trust you'd normally have >> for your/an ISP to the VPN provider which may or may not prove wise in the >> long run. >> >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Bill Berry <b...@techwang.com> wrote: >> >>> This image explains VPN + tor quite well; >>> >>> https://vigilantcanuck.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/vpn-tor.png >>> >>> IMO this setup is a pretty sensible idea given the recent de-anonymisation >>> attacks (e.g. CMU). If your Tor connection gets comprimised, all the Feds >>> have (hopefully) is your VPN IP. >>> >>> The best way to set this up is VPN at a router level (e.g. >>> http://wiki.hidemyass.com/OpenWRT_OpenVPN_Setup), then run Tails or Tor >>> browser on your laptop. >>> >>> >>> On 30/01/15 10:15, Cyrus wrote: >>> >>>> Squeak: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Relative newbie here, and I was wondering if someone could help me with >>>>> something please. I keep seeing people describing connections to the Tor >>>>> and is VPN connections in the following two ways: >>>>> >>>>> Tor -> VPN >>>>> VPN -> Tor >>>>> >>>>> So if I fire up Tunnelblick, connect to my VPN provider and then open >>>>> TBB which of the above does this describe? And also, is there a >>>>> recommended way of connecting these two technologies? >>>>> >>>> You connect to Tor through the VPN in this case. >>>> >>>> PC <=> Internet <=> VPN server <=> Internet <=> Tor Network <=> Internet >>>> >>>> Another thing I've noticed is in the Tunnelblick client that there is an >>>>> option to connect to a Socks5 proxy, this suggests to me that I can send >>>>> the VPN connection through the Tor network. But I am confused as to why >>>>> one would want to do this, and what the benefits/disadvantages might be? >>>>> >>>> If you don't want a log of your actual IP, doing this would be a >>>> benefit. Though if they already have logged where you are once as a >>>> customer, the point of this is moot. If you had a different account, you >>>> could then use the VPN anonymously. >>>> >>>>> Really appreciate any help you guys could give me! >>>>> >>>>> Squeak >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> -- >>> High quality Shiba Inu at the right price! Quality dogs for over 15 years! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org >>> To unsubscribe or change other settings go to >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk >>> >> >> >> > > > -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
