-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/11/2014 11:12 PM, Helder Ribeiro wrote: > 4. Make the Popcorn Time fork also **be a relay by default* > whenever possible**. > > Nobody would agree to do this on the main tor software for a > thousand reasons, but it's an *app* and you can decide to do that > in it independently. If you're going to add a lot of load to the > network, you have to give back.
There are at least 2 problems with many "make users a relay by default" ideas: 1. Some overzealous website administrators blacklist all Tor relay IPs, even non-exits. [1] This might cause lots of frustration in users when they realize that some sites lock them out because they used to be running a Tor relay for some time on their IP. Right now, that type of problem is limited to very few cases where relay IPs are used for non-Tor purposes as well. 2. Currently, the time constant of the Tor system to pick up a new relay[2] is way bigger than the time of a typical Bittorrent session (This is a handwaving guesstimate of mine). So the effect of contributing to Tor that way would in most cases be minimal. One could think of a way to have Tor use something like "short-lived relays", which are perhaps propagated through a DHT instead of the regular consensus system. On the one hand, that would make "giving something back to the network" a whole lot easier. On the other hand, I can hardly estimate what the security and anonymity implications of that would look like. [1] https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2013-August/002531.html [2] https://blog.torproject.org/blog/lifecycle-of-a-new-relay -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTwF/EAAoJEJe61A/xrcOQW5kP/jFB8l+/GrjDjb1gwJfRu3GY LfBWv0LUpRRV6NjqB7y9IZI6kyPSJtB9Vb8DJ91QYt653SX4Rwa0POCgDGVfQRmn HN9GWPCz9yr5jI8NU9HaFIYu+DZhYtnvlNjDDG4/ltyUr78k5uh5syrdaxwLJuV+ fue1Ef+QcybR+atkGCiMHJnn8rJcpmnFL/ntAhozGXTf6jMlAMKrekeGKc/bcNMb t8yRk0slKqlkL1/okPk7rO7tlEvGRPet8YQP6GrswT5EGk0BryxDHIwth2fJDvSK dYtI1l1XndMlVtZXOlIS2FXiack6X75aGaaot4oPQF+vUuj4AaUbC9qb6+z5FCQ8 y6hIjJNoJZ2b4m5SN3TWj/hdWAkLOVT6XUckd1Ddt03krQJH6Zs1B0IEa9wT52jm zlrxwOcUGRyvTC6R1Jh18Gj7SJE5U0E3S+sODFJIbCAcmGkwc5ZQ3j1muvJ2JvfL h53q8ZQvgzP5TnqcebUEtxKjJQtWO20+2gFDghz1+Fw+nZDDeHNVyHjEIFpPnxyy OEUYRzGY+iRWa6Wnvq+6jsts8z+zpn6cgd9PkQf+xQOkbZliG6W1RMzLlIElDYKe bGfO3VQZJHM6+gutt0JJPd7RTgJ5LGhi+utKNzZw2p7RjT6+jU62BVPJQ22sXGBT Co5y+99/dnsVR61hqy30 =l95K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
