On Wed, May 14, 2014, at 13:27, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 5/15/14, J.M. Porup <j...@porup.com> wrote: > > On Wed, May 14, 2014, at 11:53, Patrick Schleizer wrote: > >> Nicolas Vigier: > >> > It's a little sad that so many people like to use the word "DarkWeb" > >> > to talk about .onion websites, because it sounds like something scary > >> > or bad. > >> > >> Agreed. The word "dark" is already a negatively perceived word. And > >> DarkWeb also has become a negatively perceived term. > >> > >> Let's find a positive term to talk about .onion websites! Any ideas? > > > > I think the likelihood of repositioning the "Dark Web" brand in > > people's minds is approximately zero. > > > > I would recommend finding a way to turn the negative into a positive. > > Embrace the negative with a joke, for instance: > > > > Use the Dark Web. "Go Over to the Dark Side." > > I like the idea of using humour. > > And I completely disagree that "common vernacular can't be changed". > On the other hand, a "new brand" would be much easier to reposition > than the existing brand ("dark web"). > > The problem I believe is two-fold: > 1) we need a new term - this the easy part > 2) we need a good and significant reason for people to use it > > When the two happen together, we get the change.
A bit like trying to convince people to use "cracker" instead of "hacker." A lost cause, unfortunately. Positioning is about tip-of-the-mind word association. Once positioned, a negative connotation can be nearly impossible to dislodge. (By "brand" I mean any word in general use whose meaning you want to manipulate.) You can try to fork a term, so to speak. But whatever you do, you have to hack what's actually in people's minds, not what you wish were in people's minds. That generally mean refactoring the term is preferable to a fork. j -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk