On 14-01-25 06:53 AM, Katya Titov wrote: > Roger Dingledine: >> On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 06:44:11PM +1000, Katya Titov wrote: >>> So are there any useful stats on the size of the dark web? >> >> Check out http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#oakland2013-trawling >> for some statistics about the number of hidden services as of about >> a year ago. It's not all that precise (and the fact that they could >> collect these stats represents several bugs: >> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/hidden-services-need-some-love ) >> but it's pretty darn clear that it's not "vast reaches of the >> Internet" -- more like on the order of 1000 hidden services, many of >> which aren't all that popular. >> >> (Not that popularity is a good judge of the value of a hidden service; >> see example #1 on https://blog.torproject.org/blog/using-tor-good ) > > Thanks Roger, and Moritz too. > > I've put together an article and placed it on the Tor Trac/Wiki: > > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/HowBigIsTheDarkWeb
Cool - it's concise and useful as a reference point for media or public relations. To push the naming analogy a bit further, consider "dark matter" [0] used in astrophysics. If the internet is the virtual universe, what proportion would "dark energy" [1] - traffic which isnt indexed such as email, bittorrents, streaming, IM/voip/videocall, gaming? There was a statistic a few years ago that more than 40% of traffic was bittorrent. > It's a start, and I'll keep searching for more relevant information. > > I have no idea how to make it appear on the front page, but then maybe > it should wait to see whether or not it is up to standards first. > [0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_matter [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsubscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk