On 10/04/2013 11:44 PM, adrelanos wrote: > mirimir: >> On 10/04/2013 06:41 PM, Tempest wrote: >> >>> Juan Garofalo: >>>> So that the company can be blacklisted as clowns who cooperate with >>>> the US government, unlike a few principled individuals out there? >>> >>> if you trust a vpn, what does that say about you? outting vpns for being >>> put into the situation of either complying with the law or facing >>> criminal sanctions themselves is counter productive. if one is truly >>> concerned about their anonymity, they shouldn't use a vpn. this is just >>> another example of why. >> >> With proper design and planning, VPN services can operate with no >> logging, using diskless machines as openvpn servers, with user account >> details coming from Tor hidden services. If the openvpn servers are >> impounded, there is no information on them, except for a few bits in >> memory. After the dust settles, operators can open again somewhere else. >> >> See? > > And in which data center they can host their VPN service? One not > compromised by NSA? Self-hosting? What would that cost? Are there such > VPN services in reality?
That I don't know, having never operated a VPN service. LeaseWeb in Netherlands seems popular. Also CyberBunker. Other possibilities are providers that also allow Tor exit relays. But it's best to run your own data centers. -- tor-talk mailing list - tor-talk@lists.torproject.org To unsusbscribe or change other settings go to https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
