-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 I see a couple of problems with the LikelyTMViolators list.
1. Such a list puts projects such as tormail, torfone, torchat and torguard in the same box as the fakers producing modified harmful binary distributions of torproject.org software such as the tor browser bundle. 2. It helps increase the page rank of those sites, this could be making the problem worse. 3. It's easy enough for fakers to create new sourceforge accounts or domains when their site or project page appears on the list. (I did a bit of Googling around and found a number of sites that are bad which are not on that list). 4. It kind of seems like a country trying to make a great firewall. As soon as a site gets blocked people use another one. 5. It doesn't really protect users at all from the bad guys. I think a better message to send is that software that is not on https://www.torproject.org/projects/projects.html.en is untrusted, unverified and not endorsed. I guess this is why it is "just a note" on trac and does not have it's own very special page on the main site. Unfortunately some users seem to interpret it as a badware/shitlist when it's not anything more than a list of sites that contain 'tor', some might be good, some obviously bad. - -- scarp | A4F7 25DB 2529 CB1A 605B 3CB4 5DA0 4859 0FD4 B313 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJRJLrYAAoJEF2gSFkP1LMTJosQAJv3c2EfLdZuUcdwksXj32G8 PCSs903EVFz2YlXDcjFu6XN2xnC4modTkEb3RKzKObsnFDTnSl/r2SFsCvBkl9XT Y4TTVXaugPXNQAgGy1C6ghBsubF2sWwRtwTgPOZpfRmmwWO3R3jE37l/eYo5EfS/ t0wCkjrRtKOxW+ra8vmhoedtlYw1kmAqvtRVFnIOCCIv4h3n9I8jt8oEOFJMNlgg uyDhIgHr/6PFarIdqpBIYVQKzimVYcQPxKnL4N/JpA0knwR0ERApcQqRYovKXnSf P/Hdj5dib2xb6GDg/pLZQvFk67gDdEw/x5n7GwEAYiHAovRG8E+KZ0ovpWS5FPut OukPYAWL2Vkf/+hb+MYQi8pim2AWh98RYb5IuG3o8MWduCqkX2S1jhNgWRP6AHCo 5ZqMCw1MWBKvCbSNT9Ys4dO4XUNB2qEALUU8FsyEdDmiK82CEiKVTRdcC+WIxDZ7 Pgijq0X2Hm16ybk4dDctX9UFcaxtvPnNp3j8Y6OFMMoTx+pH6C1hXPEehChTyKOL CG8km3Di+4N+Eov0ugJBfjfBoa/bPTt18DZHBA+msRkTp/n28lAEOnKbZgwMjN02 TRtOxS1Qd/u7m4w3EQtKq8QL69S2pozQKnBvGDQLPbx8H/EeLdR0unbekzv2jyIv Z4V5Mdo8propwBjBVbcC =f2p6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ tor-talk mailing list tor-talk@lists.torproject.org https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk