Can network sniffers,traffic analyzers etc. see enough differences to determine 
that,this is Tor SSL traffic,or this is VPN SSL traffic,for example?It would be 
interesting to have on www.torproject.org site a graphical explanation of what 
Tor packet format is,layers of encryption in it(I remember,for example,the book 
TCP/IP Illustrated for all the TCP/IP protocols),including packet format 
changes for the new obfsproxy "translation" software.The tor website does have 
that graphics for how the tor network operates,a more low level explanation 
would be good reading.Or,is there any place where we can already find something 
like that.Thanks.                                      
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