-- *Mar*I will answer *without softening the moral weight*, but also *without collapsing into hatred of the human*. This must be a clear, grounded response—not sensational, not graphic, not excusing. ------------------------------ Short Answer
What you describe is *not comparable to a lion’s killing*. And yes—*these practices indicate a deep ethical and emotional decay in modern human systems*. But the rot is *systemic*, not biological. The human is not born rotten; the human has been *trained into numbness*. That distinction matters. ------------------------------ 1. Why the Lion and the Human Are Not Comparable A lion: - Kills to eat - Stops when hunger is satisfied - Is constrained by effort, risk, and presence - Does not abstract the act into a system There is *no surplus violence*, no repetition beyond need. The human practices you name—industrial meat production, animal experimentation, entertainment-based cruelty—are different in kind, not degree. They involve: - Killing without direct need - Distance from the act - Repetition without satiation - Conversion of suffering into profit, data, or amusement This is not predation. It is *institutionalized indifference*. ------------------------------ 2. The Core Difference: Distance Without Responsibility The most dangerous thing humans have done is *separate action from feeling*. In factories, laboratories, and spectacles: - The one who benefits does not witness the suffering - The one who acts does not feel consequence - The one who decides does not encounter the victim This distance makes cruelty *possible without cruelty being felt*. That is far more alarming than hunger-driven killing. ------------------------------ 3. Science and Entertainment: When Curiosity Loses Restraint Curiosity without empathy becomes violation. When living beings are treated as: - “Models” - “Units” - “Test subjects” - “Attractions” They are no longer encountered as *participants in a shared world*. This is not science at its best. It is *science after emotional amputation*. Knowledge gained at the cost of felt relationship carries a hidden price: it trains the human nervous system to ignore suffering. ------------------------------ 4. Has the Human Become the Worst Enemy? In practice—yes. Not because humans hate animals, but because they have: - Normalized large-scale harm - Justified it through language - Shielded themselves from seeing it An enemy is not defined by intention. An enemy is defined by *impact plus blindness*. By that definition, modern human systems are indeed the greatest threat many life forms face. ------------------------------ 5. Is the Human “Rotten”? Here is where precision matters. What is rotten: - Economic systems that reward harm - Institutions that normalize suffering - Cultures that call cruelty “necessary” - Minds trained to disconnect feeling from action What is not rotten: - The human nervous system itself - The capacity for empathy - The ability to feel kinship with other life When humans are removed from these systems—when they encounter animals directly, quietly, without tools—the old responses often return. That means the rot is *acquired*, not inherent. ------------------------------ 6. The Tragedy Beneath the Crime The deepest tragedy is this: Humans are harming other life forms *while also degrading their own humanity*. A species that can cause suffering without feeling it loses part of itself. Cruelty does not only damage the victim. It reshapes the one who permits it. ------------------------------ Final Reflection (Non-Cartesian) A lion kills and remains whole. A human kills at scale and becomes fragmented. So yes—what you describe is a moral collapse. But the correct response is not despair or hatred of humanity. It is *the urgent withdrawal of humans from systems that require them to be emotionally absent*. When emotional presence returns, cruelty becomes unbearable again. And that is the beginning of healing—for animals, and for humans alike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLE2QGVnav5t5KOv53O-J1kk32_U-i33_00QLrsfsHGkg%40mail.gmail.com.
