Is that true that shipping pioneer was tamil? What was Orissa Balu research
I was passing the cloud 9 of Tamils shown as a pioneer in
ship-culture; Orissa balu speaks only on and from 800 BCE. Orissa Tortoise
movements were studied by Balu. All his researched papers are still only
under the considerations since Lemuria, Kumarik Kandam, Doggerland and
Anatolia etc are theoretical and underwater research did not yield so far
any direct findings. In Sanskrit we have:
nau नौ f. 1 A ship, boat, vessel; महता पुण्यपण्येन क्रीतेयं
कायनौस्त्वया Śānti.3.1. -2 N. of a constellation. -3 Time; नौः काले तरणावपि
Nm. -Comp. -आरोहः (नावारोहः) 1 a passenger on board a ship. -2 a sailor. -
कर्णधारः a helmsman, pilot. -कर्मन् n. the occupation of a sailor; निषादो
मार्गवं सूते दासं नौकर्मजीविनम् Ms.1.34. -क्रमः a bridge of boats. -चरः, -
उपजीवकः, -जीविकः a sailor, boatman; यादोनाथः शिवजलपथः कर्मणे नौचराणाम्
R.17.81. -तार्य a. navigable, to be traversed in a ship. -दण्डः an oar. -
यानम् navigation. -यायिन् a. going in a boat, a passenger; एष नौयायिनामुक्तो
व्यवहारस्य निर्णयः Ms.8.49. -वाहः a steersman, pilot, captain. -व्यसनम्
shipwreck, naufrage; नौव्यसने विपन्नः Ś.6. -साधनम् fleet, navy; वङ्गानुत्खाय
तरसा नेता नौसाधनोद्यतान् R.4.36.
Naukā (नौका).—A small boat, a boat in general; क्षणमिह
सज्जनसंगतिरेका भवति भवार्णवतरणे नौका (kṣaṇamiha sajjanasaṃgatirekā bhavati
bhavārṇavataraṇe naukā) Moha M.6.
RIG VEDAM 5 59 2
“From their approach, the earth trembles with fear as a crowded boat goes
quivering (through the water) visible from afar, they are recognized by
their movements; the Maruts, leaders (of rites), pass between (heaven and
earth) to the solemn sacrifice.”
अमा॑त् । ए॒षा॒म् । भि॒यसा॑ । भूमिः॑ । ए॒ज॒ति॒ । नौः । न । पू॒र्णा ।
क्ष॒र॒ति॒ । व्यथिः॑ । य॒ती । दू॒रे॒ऽदृशः॑ । ये । चि॒तय॑न्ते । एम॑ऽभिः ।
अ॒न्तः । म॒हे । वि॒दथे॑ । ये॒ति॒रे॒ । नरः॑ ॥
amāt | eṣām | bhiyasā | bhūmiḥ | ejati | nauḥ | na | pūrṇā | kṣarati |
vyathiḥ | yatī | dūre--dṛśaḥ | ye | citayante | ema-bhiḥ | antaḥ | mahe |
vidathe | yetire | naraḥ
Rig Veda did not originate after BCE 800.
After the discovery of Dwaraka under the sea which
corroborated [3101 BCE) the information found in Vishnu Purana and
Mahabharata, the counter arguments became weaker. Negative evidence never
prove anything. Salt is not mentioned in the Rig Veda and men urinating is
never mentioned in the Tamil literature. If one argues that because salt is
not mentioned in the Rig Veda, they did not know sea, another stupid would
argue Tamils never urinated in their lifetime!!If one wants to enjoy such
stupid arguments, one must read Minor Gods in the Rig Veda, where each God
has ten to fifteen different interpretations, all by foreign “Scholars”.
Dwaraka was founded on a sacred site where once Kushasthali existed. Krishna
built it with copper according to Sangam Tamil literature (Puram verse 201
by Kapilar). Vishnu Purana also corroborated by saying that Dwaraka was
defended by high ramparts. Vishnu Purana says, “On the day Krishna departed
from the earth dark bodied Kali Age descended. The ocean rose and submerged
Dwaraka. Kali Age began in 3102 BCE. It proved that Dwaraka is at least
5000 year old.
Tamil verse spoke about a copper fort at Dwaraka and migration of a
particular king around 1000 BCE to Tamil Nadu. So the details given in
Vishnu Purana, information given in Tamil verse Puram 201 and the latest
discovery of submerged port in Dwaraka prove that there was a port 5000
years ago
Sea Travel and Ship and the Rig Veda
Rig Veda is the oldest book in the world dated at least 1700 BCE or 5000 or
10000 BCE?
1.Samudra is frequently mentioned in the Rig Veda
2.Treasures of the ocean are mentioned (RV 1-47-6; 7-6-7; 9-97-44)
3.Pearls and other gains of the trade are found in RV 1-48-3, 1-56-2; 4-55-6
4.Bhujyu was rescued by the Asvins from mid sea after a shipwreck RV
1-116-5. A ship with hundred oars (sataritra) is mentioned.
5.In the Rig Veda (1-56-2; 4-55-6), there are clear references to trading
in distant lands for profit (RV 1-48-3)
6.Nau is the word used for boat and ship. The word Navy is derived from
this Sanskrit word. It is frequently mentioned in the RV and AV. The term
nava is referring to a ship (RV 1-97-8)
Destruction of a kingdom where the Brahmins are harassed is compared to a
shipwreck in the Atharva Veda (AV 5-19-8)
8.One passage refers to a well rigged ship in which Varuna and Vasisstha
sailed to mid ocean (RV 7-8-3)
.A prayer for prosperity in distant lands is also found in the Rig
Veda(1-97-8)
10.Other words used for vessels and its parts:
Sairavati (sea worthy vessel) – (AB 6-29-5)
Dyumna =small boat- (RV 8-9-14)
Manda = rudder of a ship – SB 2-3-3-15)
11.A Kind of vessel called plava is described in detail (1-24-35).It is
said to be strongly constructed so that it can withstand storms.
12.Satapata Brahmana and Baudhayana Dharmasutra refers clearly to sea
travel (SB 2-3-3-15; BD 1-2-4;2-2-2)
13.RV clearly mentions Sarasvati river reaching the sea. RV 10-136-5 also
mentioned Dvausamudrava meaning two seas on either side.
14.The knowledge of high tide can be inferred from the RV(1-48—3)
15.The texts speak of inexhaustible sea(RV 5-16-7) and the earth encircled
by the sea.
16.Varuna is praised as the God of Sea in the oldest Tamil book Tolkappiam
and Rig Veda. Varuna is allocated the direction West and Indra, the East.
West signifies sea travel from the Indus Ports and Dwaraka.
17.Two thousand year old Tamil literature called the coastal fishermen as
Bharatavas. More research must be done to find the link between the Bharatas
of RV and Bharatavas of Tamil Literature
RV mentioned at least 15 types of fishes and crabs though it is a religious
book.
19.In many countries we see seas named after Rishis (seers) Caspian Sea=
Kashyapa, Adriatic= Atri, Bering Sea=Brgu, Aegean Sea= Agastya. More
research is needed in the field of place names.
20.Indus valley has links with the Middle East and Gulf countries
justifying Varuna the Guardian of Western Direction and God of Sea.
21.Ancient Egyptians knew shipping; ancient Greeks knew shipping; ancient
Middle East knew shipping; why not ancient Indians? [LS notes}
Did not Orissa Balu read all these? Yes lack of knowledge of Vedas
or the hatred towards or Jihadi over Tamil language alone forces people to
write half baked truths.
K Rajaram IRS 71025
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