---------- Forwarded message --------- From: N Sekar <[email protected]> Date: Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Thought for the Day 8th Oct 2025 To: <[email protected]>, Jambunathan Iyer <[email protected]>, Chittanandam V R <[email protected]>, YM <[email protected]>, Dr Sundar <[email protected]>, Venkat Raman <[email protected]>, Ravi mahajan <[email protected]>, Venkat Giri <[email protected]>, SRIRAMAJAYAM <[email protected]>, Mani APS <[email protected]>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Srinivasan Sridharan < [email protected]>, Mathangi K. Kumar <[email protected]>, Rama <[email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, Thatha_Patty-Google <[email protected]>, Sanathana group < [email protected]>, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi < [email protected]>, Narayanaswamy Sekar <[email protected]> Cc: ARR <[email protected]>, Yeddanapudi Markandeyulu < [email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>
Thanks. Patience, Tolerance etc are all good - UP TO A LIMIT. We, Hindus, are still carrying them beyond their expiry dates and so suffer the consequences. That rascal, CJI, had the guts and temerity to say what he said, only because he knows we will be patient, and tolerate any such nonsense. I wish the shoe had hit him so other rascals on the Bench would know we will not be patient and tolerant indefinitely. UPA camouflaged it's cowardice saying they are patient but Modi showed it has limits. Remember the saying "Even Nectar becomes Poison if it exceeds the limit." N Sekar Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=nativeplacement&c=US_Acquisition_YMktg_315_SearchOrgConquer_EmailSignature&af_sub1=Acquisition&af_sub2=US_YMktg&af_sub3=&af_sub4=100002039&af_sub5=C01_Email_Static_&af_ios_store_cpp=0c38e4b0-a27e-40f9-a211-f4e2de32ab91&af_android_url=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yahoo.mobile.client.android.mail&listing=search_organize_conquer> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 9:34 AM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: While Lord Krishna embodies immense patience, the idea that he should have adopted it "forever" misunderstands his divine nature and purpose. As an avatar of Vishnu, his actions, including when he ceases to be patient, are part of a cosmic plan to uphold dharma (righteousness). Here are the key reasons why Krishna's patience was not boundless: 1. Patience is not inaction In the Bhagavad Gita, Krishna teaches that action (karma) is superior to inaction. He advises Arjuna to fulfill his duty as a warrior, even when it is difficult, rather than becoming passive. While patience is a virtue, it is not an excuse for passivity in the face of injustice. 2. The purpose of his incarnations Krishna descends to earth with a specific mission to "annihilate the miscreants" and "reestablish the principles of religion". This purpose required him to end evil, not tolerate it indefinitely. His divine patience is a tool used to give wrongdoers a chance to change, but it has a limit. 3. The story of Shishupala The slaying of Shishupala is a prime example of Krishna's limited patience. The promise: Krishna promised his aunt, Shishupala's mother, that he would forgive her son's first 100 offenses. The limit: During the Rajasuya Yagna, Shishupala publicly insults Krishna 100 times, and Krishna patiently keeps count. The action: After the 100th insult, Shishupala continues his abuse. With his patience exhausted, Krishna beheads him with his Sudarshana Chakra, ending the cycle of wrongdoing. 4. When silence fuels injustice Krishna's strategic patience also served to expose wrongdoers and fulfill a larger purpose. In the story of Shishupala, Krishna's patience made it clear to all present that Shishupala's actions were unjust and unforgivable, thereby publicly demonstrating the limit of tolerance for wickedness. To have exercised "patience forever" would have allowed evil to flourish. 5. Patience as a sign of divine timing The Bhagavad Gita emphasizes faith in divine timing, which encourages focus on effort rather than immediate results. As a divine being, Krishna's long-suffering is a manifestation of this principle. He waits for the right moment (dharma) to take action, not out of weakness, but as part of a perfect, cosmic plan. 2 குறள் 154: நிறையுடைமை நீங்காமை வேண்டின் பொற்யுடைமை போற்றி யொழுகப் படும். நிறை உடையவனாக இருக்கும் தன்மை தன்னை விட்டு நீங்காமல் இருக்க வேண்டினால், பொறுமையைப் போற்றி ஒழுக வேண்டும். If you desire that greatness should never leave, you preserve in your conduct the exercise of patience குறள் 155: ஒறுத்தாரை ஒன்றாக வையாரே வைப்பர் பொறுத்தாரைப் பொன்போற் பொதிந்து. ( தீங்கு செய்தவரைப்) பொறுக்காமல் வருத்தினவரை உலகத்தார் ஒரு பொருளாக மதியார்; ஆனால், பொறுத்தவரைப் பொன்போல் மனத்துள் வைத்து மதிப்பர். (The wise) will not at all esteem the resentful. They will esteem the patient just as the gold which they lay up with care. குறள் 156: ஒறுத்தார்க்கு ஒருநாளை இன்பம் பொறுத்தார்க்குப் பொன்றுந் துணையும் புகழ். தீங்கு செய்தவரைப் பொறுக்காமல் வருத்தினவர்க்கு ஒருநாள் இன்பமே; பொறுத்தவர்க்கு உலகம் அழியும் வரைக்கும் புகழ் உண்டு. The pleasure of the resentful continues for a day. The praise of the patient will continue until (the final destruction of) the world. குறள் 157: திறனல்ல தற்பிறர் செய்யினும் நோநொந்து அறனல்ல செய்யாமை நன்று. தகுதி அல்லாதவைகளைத் தனக்குப் பிறர் செய்த போதிலும், அதனால், அவர்க்கு வரும் துன்பத்திற்காக நொந்து, அறம் அல்லாதவைகளைச் செய்யாதிருத்தல் நல்லது. Though others inflict injuries on you, yet compassionate the evil (that will come upon them) it will be well not to do them anything contrary to virtue. Thiruvalluvar said a yard stick but Lord defended it with a limitation where the dasavatharams are remembered than those who were patients. Then did Thiruvalluvar lie? NO. Kural 157 said DON’T DO NON-DHARMIC; KRISHNA HAD SUCH A PATIENCE EVERYWHERE GIVING CHANCES BUT SAID KURUSHETRAM IS A DHARMA SHETRAM. THAT IS THE LIMITATION. Sattva guna does not mean the absence of the Rajo and Thamo gunas; but proper application of the mind tuned to use it as Chanakya did. Mahatma Gandhi in spite of writing treatise for B G failed to understand this and hence the shape of the country today lies in this way. K Rajaram IRS On Wed, 8 Oct 2025 at 08:21, Jambunathan Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: Patience is a virtue, after all if you have worked hard for your goals and dreams, it will come true. Don’t keep looking for it. Allow all energies to come together to bring your manifestation in its ripe form, so that you can enjoy it. *N Jambunathan , Chennai " What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you become by achieving your goals. If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal, not to people or things "* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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