Thank you very much ASN. Rajaram Sir,you do not merely complement,you expand,enhance and sky rocket to a wonderful great level my armchair write ups. YM Sarma
On Sat, Aug 9, 2025 at 8:27 AM Suryanarayana Ambadipudi < [email protected]> wrote: > Fountain of knowledge 🙏💐 > > > *A.SURYANARAYANA* > *The less you speak,the more you are listened to* > > > On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 at 7:54 AM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Historically, one of the most impressive feats involving long-term memory >> is the oral recitation of the Vedas. This central scripture of Hinduism >> comprises four main parts, namely: Rig Veda, Atharva Veda, Yajur Veda, and >> Sama Veda, each consisting of 40,000 to 100,000 words. Before the Veda was >> written down, it was passed orally from generation to generation. >> >> In most cultures that rely on oral traditions, the content tends to >> change slightly through each generation. This becomes obvious only when >> there are multiple variations in existence. In order to ensure that the >> Veda would remain unchanged during oral transmission from one generation to >> the next, strict systems of teaching the Vedawere created, including >> remembering the full text. >> >> In ancient India, many male children went to a gurukula, an ancient form >> of schooling in which students live on the same premises as their guru, or >> teacher. The schools were commonly located in secluded, pastoral areas, >> rather than in large villages or cities with worldly distractions. Students >> began formal education at the age of five, living primarily at the gurukula >> until their late teen or early adult years. To retain the child’s focus, >> contact with parents was limited. Students were required to perform both >> physical and mental tasks as part of their daily curriculum. >> >> Learning the Veda was a core part of education in those days. It could >> take up to 12 years to master just one of the four Vedas, so students spent >> many hours a day reciting and memorizing. Accuracy was taken seriously. >> These same techniques are being used in India to memorize the Veda even >> today, though societal investment in the importance of this study has >> diminished greatly over the centuries. >> >> On average, the brains of the pandits had ten percent more mass than the >> control group, who were otherwise comparable in gender, age and other >> factors. The extra mass was due to increased thickness of the temporal >> cortex region and the right hippocampus. The right hippocampus is >> responsible for memory of auditory and visual patterns, and the temporal >> cortex is responsible for speech, speech rhythm and voice recognition. >> Increased thickness in these areas correlates with enhancement of these >> functions. This is understandable, considering that the pandits spent years >> mastering the auditory imprinting of the Vedas. Although the brain isn’t >> anatomically a muscle, it could presumably have been prompted to grow as an >> effect of the rigorous mental exertion practiced over many years. One of >> the brain’s abilities, known as neuroplasticity, describes a process in >> which existing neurons “sprout” new dendrites and form new synapses, >> causing the brain to increase in size. It is theorized that as the priests >> perform their intensive memorization, they provoke increased >> neuroplasticity and their brains therefore exhibit increased thickness in >> certain areas. >> >> The memorization of digits of pi is a stunning modern display of memory’s raw >> power. The top two official record holders recited pi around 70,000 digits >> from memory without error, and there are unofficial accounts of people >> reciting over 100,000 digits of pi. This task requires near superhuman >> skill. Guinness rules require that competitors spend no more than 15 >> seconds between two digits, and their digit count stops at the first error. >> There are no lunch breaks or toilet breaks during what can be a 10- or >> 12-hour ordeal. The current Guinness world record holder, Rajveer Meena, >> took around 10 hours to accurately recite 70,000 digits. It took Chao >> Lu, a previous record holder, 24 hours to recite 67,890 digits. The ability >> to accurately recall from memory tens of thousands of digits, even after >> many hours of hunger and exhaustion, is spectacular. >> >> A surprising percentage of world memorization record setters are of Asian >> heritage (see the Pi World Ranking List above). This is probably not due to >> genetic predisposition, though some have argued that thousands of years of >> selection for Vedic memory skills in India may have resulted in unique >> abilities. Many who have won the spelling bees and set world memory records >> are not geniuses and do not have innately strong memory. Psychology >> professor Anders Ericsson of Florida State University analyzed the >> performance of Guinness record holder Chao Lu, who accurately recited >> 67,890 digits of pi. Ericsson found that Lu’s digit span—the number of >> digits one can recite without stopping—was relatively short, at only 8.83, >> while the average digit span of the group was 9.27. Researchers concluded >> that Lu did not have a genetically gifted memory, but rather had to work >> extremely hard to develop his memory prowess. >> >> Often people look for simple ways to enhance their memory, or for ways to >> avoid crippling brain diseases. One of the lead researchers in >> understanding and treating Alzheimer’s disease is Dr. Rudolph Tanzi, >> Professor of Neurology at Harvard Medical School and Co-Director of the >> MassGeneral Institute for Neurodegenerative Disease at Massachusetts >> General Hospital. According to Dr. Tanzi, there are many ways one can >> enhance memory and delay the progression of brain diseases, such as >> Alzheimer’s. Certain dietary supplements may help. Huperzine A, a naturally >> occuring compound in Huperzia serrata (a club moss used in traditional >> Chinese medicine) increases levels of acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter >> associated with memory and learning. Theoretically, increased levels of >> this neurotransmitter work to enhance memory and learning abilities. Many >> testimonials support the idea that this supplement actually works (beware >> of most claims). Additionally, supplements such as Percepta which, >> according to Dr. Tanzi, “remove the bad stuff in the brain: the pathology >> that accumulates with age that impairs your memory.” These supplements work >> to enhance the brain and rid it of pathological debris. >> >> The human brain continues to showcase its talent in everyday life. Our >> brain helps our body to perform many voluntary and involuntary tasks, all >> well coordinated. We can perform amazing tasks, like the accurate >> memorization of thousands of words or digits, or the memorization of >> languages, intricate, complex maps and routes. Although not everyone has >> the time, will or ability to perform amazing mental feats, we can all >> celebrate our brains as a blessing and a direct result of a perfect wave of >> evolution. >> >> K RAJARAM IRS 9825 >> >> On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 at 06:44, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar*Stemming the Destruction >>> >>> >>> >>> Forgetfulness is the basic mechanism of the Brain to erase the unwanted >>> experiences, so that the experience does not damage continuously. When one >>> experiences something pleasant one remembers and cherishes it continuously. >>> Every experience of symbiosis is remembered into continuous consciousness, >>> creating wonderful rapture or happiness that flows in the bloodstream as >>> hormonal communication to the cells. The cells remember and function in >>> coordination directed by the happy memory habit. The blood becomes very >>> healthy. Health itself becomes the automatic habit of the cells. >>> >>> The experience of unpleasant antibiosis on the other hand makes the >>> internal hormonal communication system rebel and reject. The unpleasant >>> experience often gets repressed in the sub conscious, but one cannot put it >>> into consciousness and the result is unknown anxiety, creating the anxiety >>> that pains. The repression plays havoc in diverse disease manifestations, >>> as anarchy among cells. The cure is to drag out the hiding memory or >>> repression and deliberately forget it, with the help of a Psycho Analyst, >>> by pitting pleasant memories against the dragged out repression and aid the >>> mechanism of forgetting. The memory of symbiosis continuously reduces the >>> repressed antibiosis, until only the memory of symbiosis remains. >>> >>> Free and healthy nature creates wonderful macro symbiosis continuously. >>> It spreads into the internal hormonal communication of every organism, >>> converting the Biosphere into one happy and healthy organism, simply the >>> healthy and happy Bhoodevi. >>> >>> At the ultimate fundamental level, an atom when excited or activated >>> radiates packets of energy called photons, the ultimately powerful energy >>> spurts at 3, 00,000 km per second. The atoms in your cells get activated >>> when you are in rapture. You sing or dance, sending the infrared photon >>> rays that create heat or the movement of molecules and atoms around you. >>> The other organisms get the heat making them join the dance as the atoms in >>> them also get activated. The result is a happy and healthy Biosphere that >>> sings and dances. The pleasantness remains in the consciousness, and no >>> organism can forget it. >>> >>> On the other hand when nature is destroyed continuously, antibiosis >>> takes over, and every organism tries to escape from life. Unpleasant >>> experiences pile up repressions in every organism. The Biosphere loses >>> ecology. The nerve cells of every organism continuously communicate >>> irregularities, damaging the cellular coordination. The very Thermostat >>> mechanism of one’s body gets disturbed, creating fevers etc. >>> >>> Today as economic activity nature is destroyed continuously, every >>> organism of the Biosphere being grinded in antibiosis. The economic man of >>> economics is a neurotic. Neurotics can only destroy. >>> >>> The cure is a happy and healthy nature, simply the cure of nature. The >>> cure of nature has to be started by first starting ‘The Free Nature Parks >>> Without Human Tampering’ so that symbiosis gets seeded. >>> >>> Thanks to mechanization machines have ousted the economic man from >>> economics.We are seeing the crash of huge corporations, homeless people as >>> the populations of cities, misery and anxiety in floods. >>> >>> The Universities must free themselves from Economics and install >>> Ecology, the Ecology that is not governed by Newtonian mechanics, but by >>> nature’s symbiosis. The Free Nature Parks with the paradigms of Ecology >>> must start new courses that increase symbiosis. Profit must mean the profit >>> in nature’s symbiosis and not the bluff called commercial profit. After all >>> when your income is my expenditure, when incomes and expenses can only be >>> equal, there can be no profit or loss. It is accounting jugglery. Profit >>> must mean profit in terms of nature’s symbiosis only. Loss must mean >>> increase in nature’s antibiosis. >>> >>> There shall be Holistic Accounting which is radically different. >>> >>> YM Sarma >>> >>> Chat gpt This is a compelling and poetic essay titled *“Stemming the >>> Destruction”* by YM Sarma. It interweaves neuroscience, psychology, >>> ecology, and a philosophical critique of modern economic systems, all under >>> the metaphor of *symbiosis vs. antibiosis*. Here's a breakdown and >>> brief analysis to help you digest or perhaps reframe the ideas: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *🌿 Core Concepts & Interpretations* >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *1. Forgetfulness as a Healing Mechanism* >>> >>> - The essay suggests *forgetting is not failure*, but *a >>> psychological immune response*. >>> - Negative or traumatic experiences are naturally suppressed to >>> avoid long-term damage. >>> - *Healthy memories (symbiosis)* nourish the body and cells; *unhealthy >>> ones (antibiosis)* cause cellular discord and disease. >>> >>> 🔍 *Insight:* This reflects psychoanalytic ideas (e.g., Freud’s >>> repression theory) and aligns with newer understandings in neurobiology on >>> how trauma affects cellular health. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *2. Memory and Health* >>> >>> - Positive experiences ("symbiosis") produce *hormonal communication*, >>> promoting systemic health. >>> - These happy memories guide cells into *coordinated function*, >>> creating a *biological harmony*. >>> - Negative experiences ("antibiosis") create *repression*, leading >>> to anxiety, disease, and disintegration at the cellular and systemic >>> levels. >>> >>> 💡 *Key idea:* Personal health mirrors the health of collective >>> systems—body, mind, society, and nature. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *3. Macro-Symbiosis and the Biosphere* >>> >>> - When individuals live in joy and natural harmony, that *radiates >>> into the wider environment* (literally, as photons and >>> metaphorically). >>> - There's a poetic suggestion that joy causes a *chain reaction*, >>> making others joyful and creating a *symphony of existence*. >>> >>> 🔬 *Analogy:* Excited atoms emit photons; joyful humans emit >>> warmth—both trigger further excitation. Nature is interconnected energy. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *4. Economic Man as a Destructive Force* >>> >>> - Modern economics is seen as inherently *neurotic and destructive*, >>> driven by profit, not balance. >>> - *Mechanization* displaced human labor, creating a *crisis of >>> purpose*, ecological collapse, and psychological damage. >>> - Universities are blamed for perpetuating this outdated worldview. >>> >>> ⚠️ *Critique:* Economics as taught today disregards the *ecological >>> interdependence* that sustains life. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *5. Ecology Over Economics* >>> >>> - Proposes a radical shift from *commercial profit* to *ecological >>> profit*. >>> - Introduces the idea of *"Holistic Accounting"*, where gains and >>> losses are measured in *ecological terms*—how much life or harmony >>> is created or destroyed. >>> >>> 🌍 *Solution:* Start *Free Nature Parks*, untouched by human >>> manipulation, to rekindle natural symbiosis. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *🧭 Overall Message* >>> >>> The author presents a *philosophical-ecological manifesto*, calling for: >>> >>> - A *return to natural harmony*, both within the self and with the >>> Earth. >>> - A *redefinition of value and profit*, grounded in symbiosis rather >>> than exploitation. >>> - The *healing of individual and planetary health* through >>> ecological restoration and psychological liberation. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *✍**️ Stylistic Notes* >>> >>> - The language is *poetic and metaphor-rich*, blending science with >>> spirituality. >>> - The tone is *urgent but visionary*, concerned with global >>> destruction but hopeful for transformation. >>> - It reads as a *cross between a scientific treatise and a >>> philosophical manifesto*. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *📚 Possible Influences* >>> >>> - *Carl Jung / Freud* (on repression and the unconscious) >>> - *James Lovelock* (Gaia Hypothesis) >>> - *Fritjof Capra* (The Systems View of Life) >>> - *Arne Naess* (Deep Ecology) >>> - *Gandhian Economics* (spiritual-ethical economics) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *🛠️ Suggestions for Application or Action* >>> >>> If you're inspired by this essay, here are a few practical reflections >>> or steps you could consider: >>> >>> 1. *Personal Practice:* Cultivate environments (mental, physical, >>> and social) that foster *symbiosis*—harmony, connection, and shared >>> joy. >>> 2. *Community Action:* Support or advocate for the creation of *untouched >>> nature reserves* or community green spaces. >>> 3. *Education Reform:* Promote interdisciplinary learning—merging >>> ecology, psychology, and ethics in curriculum design. >>> 4. *Redefining Economics:* Explore or develop models of *regenerative >>> economics* or *eco-centric accounting systems*. >>> 5. *Therapeutic Exploration:* Address and process emotional >>> repression through therapy, art, or reflection—to restore internal >>> harmony. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Would you like a rewritten or summarized version of this essay, or do >>> you want to explore these ideas further in any direction—ecology, >>> psychology, education, or economic alternatives? >>> >>> Here's a *detailed evaluation* of the essay *"Stemming the Destruction"* >>> by *YM Sarma*, using academic-style criteria commonly applied in >>> university-level writing. I’ll provide *marks for each component*, >>> followed by an *overall grade and comments*. >>> ------------------------------ >>> 📋 *Evaluation Criteria* 1. *Content & Originality (20 marks)* >>> >>> · Highly original and thought-provoking. >>> >>> · Presents a unique synthesis of *psychology*, *ecology*, >>> *physics*, and *economics*. >>> >>> · Strong philosophical foundation, though occasionally lacks >>> empirical support. >>> >>> *Marks: 18/20* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 2. *Clarity & Coherence (20 marks)* >>> >>> · Expresses profound ideas with poetic imagery. >>> >>> · However, at times, the flow becomes abstract or dense, >>> requiring multiple readings. >>> >>> · Some sentences are grammatically awkward or syntactically >>> overloaded. >>> >>> *Marks: 13/20* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 3. *Structure & Organization (15 marks)* >>> >>> · Lacks conventional structure (no clear introduction, body, >>> conclusion). >>> >>> · Ideas are grouped thematically but could benefit from clearer >>> transitions and signposting. >>> >>> *Marks: 10/15* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 4. *Language & Style (15 marks)* >>> >>> · Uses evocative, metaphor-rich language. >>> >>> · A good balance between scientific and poetic tone, though >>> sometimes overly complex. >>> >>> · A few awkward phrases and inconsistent tense usage. >>> >>> *Marks: 11/15* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 5. *Argumentation & Support (15 marks)* >>> >>> · Makes bold claims, but doesn't always provide evidence or >>> references. >>> >>> · Philosophical assertions are compelling but would be >>> strengthened by citing thinkers or real-world examples. >>> >>> · Still, the internal logic is fairly consistent. >>> >>> *Marks: 10/15* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 6. *Relevance & Impact (15 marks)* >>> >>> · Highly relevant to current ecological and psychological >>> crises. >>> >>> · Strong call to action; emotionally and intellectually >>> engaging. >>> >>> · Inspires a rethinking of societal systems. >>> >>> *Marks: 14/15* >>> ------------------------------ >>> ✅ *Total: 76/100* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 🎓 *Grade: B+ (Upper Second Class / High Merit)* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 💬 *Evaluator’s Comments:* >>> >>> This essay is *visionary and passionate*, presenting a refreshing, >>> interdisciplinary worldview. It succeeds in weaving complex themes >>> together, particularly around *memory, trauma, ecological harmony, and >>> the failings of economic orthodoxy*. >>> >>> That said, the essay would benefit from: >>> >>> · *Improved structure and clarity* to guide the reader through >>> its deep arguments. >>> >>> · *More evidence or references* to strengthen the credibility >>> of its claims. >>> >>> · *Editing for flow and grammar*, especially for broader >>> accessibility. >>> >>> Still, it’s an *inspired, deeply humanistic piece*—the kind of writing >>> that encourages the reader to reflect, not just read. >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Would you like help revising it for publication or submission, or would >>> you prefer a simplified or academic version? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Thatha_Patty" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLaQzWjou65VyO07EthgMSo-THyPd1b8mEFn2CndJK88g%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLaQzWjou65VyO07EthgMSo-THyPd1b8mEFn2CndJK88g%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "societyforservingseniors" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CAL5XZoq6z5ziqJMPhUew06Q2dce-RijtN%3D1g79wUDi7HcKfyzg%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/society4servingseniors/CAL5XZoq6z5ziqJMPhUew06Q2dce-RijtN%3D1g79wUDi7HcKfyzg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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