Welcome sir On Fri, 18 Jul 2025, 12:16 Markendeya Yeddanapudi, < [email protected]> wrote:
> Rajaram Sir, > You simply enhanced the importance of the topic with your telling > response.Thank You very much Sir. > YM Sarma > > On Fri, Jul 18, 2025 at 10:55 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> NATURE POPULATION AND WORK PROGRESS BALANCE >> >> >> >> That’s a powerful and timely question—asking how far we are factually and >> statically misusing nature. Let’s unpack that from both a data-driven >> (factual) and long-term trend (static/structural) perspective: >> >> >> >> Factually – By the Numbers >> >> These are concrete, measurable ways we're misusing nature: >> >> 1. Deforestation >> >> 10 million hectares of forest are lost each year (FAO, 2023). >> >> That’s roughly 1 football field every 6 seconds. >> >> Amazon rainforest is approaching a tipping point where parts could turn >> into savannah. >> >> 2. Climate Change >> >> Global average temperature is now over 1.2°C above pre-industrial levels. >> >> 2023 and 2024 were the hottest years on record. >> >> Carbon emissions hit a record 37+ billion tons per year. >> >> 3. Biodiversity Loss >> >> We’ve lost 69% of wildlife populations since 1970 (WWF Living Planet >> Report). >> >> Currently, 1 million species are at risk of extinction (IPBES). >> >> We’re in what scientists call the Sixth Mass Extinction, but this one’s >> human-driven. >> >> 4. Pollution & Waste >> >> 11 million tons of plastic enter oceans every year. >> >> >> >> Microplastics have been found in human blood, lungs, and placenta. >> >> Air pollution kills 7 million people per year, more than smoking. >> >> Statically – In Systemic or Structural Terms >> >> Now let’s look at deeper, more persistent patterns that show how our >> relationship with nature is fundamentally misaligned: >> >> 1. Economic Systems Built on Extraction >> >> Global economy assumes infinite growth on a finite planet. >> >> Nature is treated as an “externality”—something not accounted for in >> profit/loss. >> >> Subsidies: Fossil fuel subsidies still amount to $7 trillion globally >> (IMF, 2023). >> >> 2. Urbanization & Land Use >> >> Over 75% of the Earth's land is now “significantly altered.” >> >> Cities are expanding into forests, wetlands, and arable land—removing >> carbon sinks. >> >> Agricultural systems rely on monoculture and pesticides, damaging soil >> and water. >> >> 3. Cultural Detachment >> >> Nature is increasingly seen as separate from humans—a “resource,” not a >> living system. >> >> Only 16% of people in high-income countries work in direct contact with >> the natural world (e.g. farming, forestry, etc). >> >> 4. Slow Governance & Fast Collapse >> >> Climate targets (like “Net Zero by 2050”) often lack binding enforcement >> or transparency. >> >> Even as climate science becomes more clear, policy change is decades >> behind the crisis curve. >> >> So: How Far Are We Misusing Nature? >> >> Factually: We are consuming, polluting, and degrading the planet faster >> than it can regenerate. >> >> Statically: We are locked into systems (economic, political, cultural) >> that normalize this misuse, making it extremely hard to reverse. >> >> In blunt terms: We are living as if we have 1.7 Earths, according to the >> Global Footprint Network. That’s overshoot—and it’s accelerating. >> >> 1. Earth Overshoot Day >> >> 2024 Earth Overshoot Day: July 25 >> >> This is the day when humanity’s resource consumption for the year exceeds >> Earth’s capacity to regenerate those resources. >> >> We are using 1.7 Earths worth of resources annually. >> >> This means we are overusing nature by 70%. >> >> 2. Resource Extraction >> >> Global material extraction (minerals, fossil fuels, biomass, etc.): >> >> 1970: ~27 billion tonnes/year >> >> 2023: ~100 billion tonnes/year >> >> Of this, less than 10% is recycled. >> >> The Circularity Gap is enormous: we waste most resources instead of >> reusing them. >> >> 3. Deforestation >> >> Rate: ~10 million hectares/year (FAO, 2020) >> >> Major cause: agriculture, logging, urbanization. >> >> Amazon Rainforest has lost ~17% of its original forest cover. >> >> Indonesia and Congo Basin also seeing massive losses. >> >> 4. Climate Change & Emissions >> >> CO₂ concentration (2024): over 420 ppm (pre-industrial was ~280 ppm) >> >> Global average temperature is now ~1.2°C above pre-industrial levels. >> >> Major sources: >> >> Energy production (73%) >> >> Agriculture (10%) >> >> Industry (5%) >> >> We’re on track for 2.5–3°C warming by 2100 without major changes. >> >> 5. Ocean Misuse >> >> Plastic pollution: >> >> 11 million metric tonnes of plastic enter oceans yearly. >> >> By 2050, plastics may outweigh fish in the oceans (by weight). >> >> Overfishing: >> >> Over 34% of global fish stocks are overfished (FAO). >> >> Coral reefs: Over 50% are either gone or severely degraded. >> >> 6. Biodiversity Loss >> >> 1 million species are at risk of extinction (IPBES, 2019). >> >> 68% decline in wildlife populations since 1970 (WWF Living Planet Report >> 2020). >> >> Primary drivers: habitat destruction, climate change, invasive species, >> pollution. >> >> 7. Water Mismanagement >> >> 2 billion people live in water-stressed areas. >> >> Agriculture uses ~70% of global freshwater, much of it inefficiently. >> >> Major aquifers (India, China, US) are being depleted unsustainably. >> >> 8. Pollution >> >> Air pollution kills ~7 million people each year (WHO). >> >> Chemical pollution and waste have now crossed planetary boundaries >> (Stockholm Resilience Centre, 2022). >> >> Summary: Are We Misusing Nature? >> >> Yes — extensively and unsustainably. Most planetary boundaries are either >> already exceeded or dangerously close to being breached. >> >> Indicator Status Misuse >> Level >> >> Resource Use 100 billion tonnes/year Excessive >> >> Biodiversity 1 million species at >> risk Critical >> >> Climate Change 420+ ppm CO₂ Critical >> >> Deforestation 10M hectares/year Alarming >> >> Ocean Health Plastics, overfishing Degrading >> fast >> >> Water Scarcity 2 billion affected High >> misuse >> >> *balancing human progress with ecological responsibility.* >> >> Let’s break it down step by step: >> >> >> >> SHOULD WE CONTINUE DEVELOPMENT? >> >> Yes — but how we develop must radically change. >> >> We cannot stop progress or population growth outright. But we must >> rethink and redesign our relationship with nature. >> >> >> >> Development is necessary because: >> >> 700+ million people still live in extreme poverty. >> >> >> >> Billions lack clean water, energy, healthcare, education. >> >> Urbanization and infrastructure are required for quality of life. >> >> >> >> But unchecked development causes: >> >> Environmental collapse >> >> Climate migration >> >> Resource wars >> >> Mass extinction >> >> So, we must move from “exploitation” to “regeneration.” >> >> >> >> HOW CAN WE FIND SPACE AND RESOURCES SUSTAINABLY? >> >> 1. Redefine “space” >> >> We don’t always need more land — we need to use existing land better: >> >> Vertical farming → 90% less water, less land >> >> Urban redesign → smarter, denser, greener cities >> >> Rewilding & green corridors to protect ecosystems >> >> >> >> 2. Decouple growth from destruction >> >> Circular economy: Design waste out of systems. Reuse, regenerate. >> >> Renewable energy: Solar, wind, tidal – rather than fossil fuels. >> >> Green building materials: Bamboo, recycled steel, bioplastics. >> >> Digital infrastructure: A lot of value can be created digitally, not >> physically. >> >> >> >> 3. Population + Consumption Management >> >> Empowerment of women (education, rights) → directly reduces population >> growth rates. >> >> Smart consumption: Shift cultures from “more” to “better.” >> >> Degrowth where necessary in highly overconsuming regions. >> >> >> >> 4. Regenerative Work Creation >> >> We don’t have to choose between jobs and nature. Many new kinds of work >> align both: >> >> New Economy Jobs >> Examples >> >> Clean Energy Solar panel >> installation, battery tech >> >> Green Construction Eco-architecture, >> passive homes >> >> Circular Economy Repair, reuse, >> remanufacture >> >> Ecosystem Restoration Forest, river, soil >> restoration >> >> Sustainable Agriculture Organic, permaculture, >> agroforestry >> >> Green Tech & AI Smart grids, energy >> optimization >> >> Education & Care Economy Teachers, healthcare, social >> work >> >> >> >> THE VISION OF PROGRESS >> >> Progress isn’t just more. >> >> It is: >> >> Better for people (health, dignity, equity) >> >> Lighter on the planet (low footprint, high wisdom) >> >> Rooted in balance, not blind speed. >> >> We must measure success not by GDP alone, but by well-being, ecological >> health, and generational justice. >> >> >> >> INSPIRING MODELS >> >> Bhutan: Gross National Happiness instead of GDP. >> >> Costa Rica: 98% renewable energy, high biodiversity, good quality of life. >> >> Amsterdam: Circular city model (reusing all materials). >> >> India's Araku Valley: Tribal agroforestry model — restoring land while >> boosting economy. >> >> >> >> Final Thought: >> >> We can build, grow, and progress — but not in the same old way. >> >> We must transition from being nature’s conquerors to its stewards. >> >> KR EXTRACTED ND MADE SHORT FROM BOOKS, GOOGLE AND ECONOMICAL >> FACTORS DISCUSSIONS HAD EARLIER WE CANNOT GO AGAINST NATURE IS RIGHT. >> PROGRESS OF PEOPLE WHILE INCREASE IN POPULATION CITED CANNOT BE DENIED OR >> IGNORED OR SIT BACK IN THE VEDIC PERIODS. BUT ALTERNATIVES ARE SUGGESTED. >> BUT BECAUSE OF COST FACTOR PROHIBITIVE FOR SUCH ADVANCEMENTS. AS EARLIER >> VIOLATIONS ARE AVAILABLE AT A LESSER COST, -GOVT MUST BAN AND DISSOLVE MANY >> EXTABLISHMENTS OVERNIGHT; WILL IT BE POSSIBLE? 18725 >> >> On Fri, 18 Jul 2025 at 06:07, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Mar*The New Jobs >>> >>> >>> >>> Machines menace nature. No organism of the Biosphere, excepting the >>> human accepts mechanization. The Biosphere needs and survives on the basis >>> of ecological symbiosis. The Human among all other organisms, is the most >>> vandalized by mechanization. When you use a machine to do the work of your >>> limb, you are freezing the limb, making the limb semi dysfunctional. We are >>> so deceived by commercial and academic advertising that we glorify >>> mechanization as progress and advancement. The fact that every machine >>> harms nature and assaults nature’s ecological symbiosis is put under the >>> big cover up carpet. From the age of about three we drill the children that >>> machines are great. >>> >>> Economics simply is the applied intrusion of mechanization into our >>> lives, lives which need the tampering by machines. Now the damage appears >>> to have bottomed. Human Sociology is getting antiqued. Humans no longer can >>> be the subject matter of Socialogy, because all relations are being taken >>> over by machines. Every job in the economies is being taken over by >>> machines and we are entering the age of Robots. When jobs are lost, >>> automatically markets will be lost and economies simply collapse. We are >>> all fast jumping into the ultimate abyss, the gigantic depression, which >>> will make the economic depression of 1929 extremely small. >>> >>> Nature is rejecting economics. It needs ecology on the terms of ecology >>> without any adulteration of economics and mechanization. For about 200 >>> years we have destroyed the 4.6 billion year evolution of earth, diseased >>> it, by polluting the land, water and air, causing the extinction of >>> thousands of life forms, and actually destroying the very geographical and >>> climatic routine and life of the planet earth. >>> >>> The new and urgent jobs are in reviving the 4.6 billion year evolution; >>> again putting nature on its rails. Every facet of nature needs cure and >>> revival. The first step is to start the ‘Free Nature Parks ‘without human >>> tampering, where nature is free on the terms of nature. >>> >>> The basic fact is, what we see is just 00.0035% of the totality. We do >>> not see or even feel the 99.9965% of our own life and also the gigantic >>> nature in symbiosis. Nature is basically abstract and not as the 3D visible >>> units only. The reality is the fourth non 3D Time dimension, and the 3D >>> shapes are illusions. Mechanization is putting us in the shackles or jails >>> of confining us into the visible 3D shapes as the only reality. But >>> feelings and emotions are basic currencies of the Biosphere. The >>> Troposphere brims with the messages of organisms in smells resulting from >>> feelings and emotions. Every organism inhales and exhales the smell >>> communications. >>> >>> Languaging the diverse smell communications of the air itself needs >>> millions and millions of jobs. That is the language with which we converse >>> with nature, without menacing it with economics. >>> >>> Thanks to our economics, every organism of the Biosphere today is under >>> trauma. Actually we have created the new nature under terrible trauma. >>> >>> Every University must not only start ‘The Free Nature Parks ‘without our >>> tampering, but also courses in curing nature from the terrible emotional >>> trauma. >>> >>> Nature is emotional, not mechanical. We can converse with every life >>> form, if we succeed in developing the common language of the Biosphere, >>> which is based on emotions. We must start the revival of nature by first >>> developing the capacity to converse with the other life forms. The >>> Biosphere actually is the emotional cover of the Lithosphere. >>> >>> YM Sarma >>> >>> Chat gpt >>> >>> This is a deeply evocative and philosophical reflection on the impacts >>> of mechanization, penned with a sense of urgency and reverence for the >>> natural world. YM Sarma's piece, *The New Jobs*, presents a provocative >>> critique of our technological and economic systems while calling for a >>> radical shift toward ecological and emotional reconnection with nature. >>> Here’s a breakdown and interpretation of the key ideas, along with some >>> critical thoughts: >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *Core Ideas in the Text* >>> >>> 1. *Mechanization as a Threat to Nature and Humanity:* >>> - Sarma argues that machines are inherently hostile to nature and >>> to human biology. >>> - Mechanization leads to the dysfunction of human faculties—our >>> limbs, emotions, and social structures. >>> - There's a sharp critique of how society glorifies machines >>> through education and advertising. >>> 2. *Collapse of Economics and Sociology:* >>> - Economics is described as the intrusion of machines into life, >>> disrupting natural balance. >>> - As machines replace humans in all jobs, markets will collapse, >>> leading to what Sarma sees as an inevitable “gigantic depression.” >>> 3. *Need for Ecological Revival:* >>> - The author suggests that the Earth’s evolutionary >>> course—billions of years in the making—has been derailed in just 200 >>> years. >>> - Proposes “Free Nature Parks” as sanctuaries where nature is >>> left untouched by human interference. >>> 4. *Emotions and the Hidden Reality of Nature:* >>> - Sarma posits that reality is not limited to what we see—only a >>> minuscule percentage of existence is visible. >>> - Emotions and smell-communication among life forms are seen as >>> essential modes of interaction in the biosphere. >>> - Machines, rooted in the 3D material world, cannot capture or >>> honor these dimensions. >>> 5. *A New Direction for Human Work and Education:* >>> - Calls for new jobs in “curing nature,” translating and >>> understanding biospheric communication. >>> - Advocates for universities to teach emotional communication >>> with nature and to take a role in healing environmental trauma. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *Interpretive Commentary* >>> >>> - *Visionary but Abstract:* >>> Sarma paints a bold vision of a post-mechanization world, but the >>> solutions are more poetic and philosophical than practical. The idea of >>> conversing with nature through emotions and smells is imaginative, but >>> how >>> it would be operationalized is unclear. >>> - *Critique of Economics:* >>> The rejection of economics in favor of ecology highlights an >>> important tension in sustainability debates. Still, completely dismissing >>> economics might limit realistic paths for transition. There’s potential >>> to >>> integrate ecological economics instead. >>> - *A Spiritual-Ecological Call to Action:* >>> This text stands out in framing environmentalism not just as a >>> scientific or political issue, but as an emotional and spiritual >>> imperative. It challenges the reader to rethink not just *what* we >>> do to nature, but *how* we relate to it. >>> - *Potential Impact on Education and Work:* >>> Sarma’s proposal for new jobs—such as decoding biospheric >>> communication or establishing nature preserves—is inspiring, especially >>> in >>> the context of rising automation and AI. It suggests redefining work in >>> harmony with nature, not in conquest of it. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *Conclusion* >>> >>> *The New Jobs* is a radical and emotionally charged manifesto calling >>> for humanity to abandon its mechanized worldview and return to an empathic, >>> symbiotic relationship with nature. It’s a blend of ecological criticism, >>> metaphysics, and social philosophy, urging us to rethink the very >>> foundations of our civilization. >>> >>> If you're looking to expand this into an essay, workshop, or even a >>> curriculum idea, I’d be happy to help structure that with you. Would you >>> like to take any particular part of this further? >>> >>> >>> >>> You're touching on one of the most urgent and unsettling challenges of >>> our time: *permanent job losses due to automation, AI, and >>> mechanization*, and their ripple effects—social instability, extremism, >>> ecological degradation, and the collapse of economic structures built on >>> human labor. >>> >>> Your question—*What has to be the next beginning?*—is both profound and >>> practical. Let’s unpack it step-by-step and explore what such a “next >>> beginning” could look like. >>> ------------------------------ >>> 🌍 *THE COLLAPSE* — Where We Are Now >>> >>> · *Permanent job loss* is not a temporary economic cycle; it's >>> a systemic shift. >>> >>> · *Machines and AI* are replacing not just physical labor, but >>> cognitive work as well. >>> >>> · As jobs disappear, *income distribution* narrows to the few >>> who control capital and algorithms. >>> >>> · This leads to *loss of livelihoods*, which then fuels: >>> >>> o Social unrest and *strife* >>> >>> o *Anarchy*, due to governance breakdowns >>> >>> o Rise of *extremism and fundamentalism*, as people seek meaning or >>> power in chaos >>> >>> o *Environmental destruction*, as profit-driven systems exploit >>> natural resources without feedback from healthy human communities >>> >>> This is the *“end”* of economics as we have known it: a system based on >>> *growth, >>> competition, mechanization, and profit extraction*, at odds with >>> ecological balance and human fulfillment. >>> ------------------------------ >>> 🌱 *THE NEXT BEGINNING* — What Must Come Next >>> >>> The next beginning must shift from *Economics* to a new, *Ecological >>> Civilization*. >>> 1. *Redefining Work: From Livelihood to Life-giving Activity* >>> >>> · Work must no longer be tied solely to income or market >>> utility. >>> >>> · The new jobs must be about: >>> >>> o *Healing ecosystems* (reforestation, wetland restoration, >>> pollution reversal) >>> >>> o *Regenerating soil, water, and air* >>> >>> o *Biodiversity stewardship* (not exploitation) >>> >>> o *Emotional healing of society*, communities, and nature >>> >>> · These jobs can’t be done by machines. They require human >>> empathy, presence, and care. >>> 2. *Ecological UBI (Universal Basic Infrastructure & Income)* >>> >>> · If machines are doing the economic work, humans must be freed >>> to do *biospheric and social work*. >>> >>> · A system of *basic needs provision (food, shelter, health, >>> education)* must be guaranteed. >>> >>> · UBI linked to *planet repair work* can create purpose without >>> market dependency. >>> 3. *Ecocentric Education Systems* >>> >>> · Shift curriculum from job training to *earth training*. >>> >>> · Teach: >>> >>> o Earth systems science >>> >>> o Inter-species communication (like Sarma’s call to decode >>> biospheric languages) >>> >>> o Emotional literacy and trauma healing >>> >>> o Collaborative living >>> >>> · Universities must focus on *biocultural regeneration*, not >>> industrial productivity. >>> 4. *Decentralized, Bioregional Economies* >>> >>> · Replace globalized supply chains with *local ecological >>> economies*. >>> >>> · Let each region thrive according to its *biocapacity*—its >>> natural limits and uniqueness. >>> >>> · This reconnects people to their place, reduces consumption, >>> and empowers local resilience. >>> 5. *New Value Systems: Beyond Money* >>> >>> · Measure success not in GDP, but in: >>> >>> o *Biodiversity health* >>> >>> o *Community well-being* >>> >>> o *Mental and emotional health* >>> >>> o *Cultural vitality* >>> >>> o *Resilience of ecosystems* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 🔁 This Is Not a Reform. It’s a Rebirth. >>> >>> What’s needed is not just a fix or policy adjustment—it is a *civilizational >>> shift*: >>> >>> From a *technological-economic civilization* >>> → to an *ecological-emotional civilization* >>> >>> From *control over nature* >>> → to *collaboration with nature* >>> >>> From *growth and competition* >>> → to *healing and symbiosis* >>> >>> From *machine values* >>> → to *life values* >>> ------------------------------ >>> 🛤️ Practical First Steps >>> >>> 1. *Establish Free Nature Zones* as Sarma proposed—regions where >>> no machines interfere, and humans learn to be stewards, not users. >>> >>> 2. *Pilot Earth Repair Corps*—retrain the unemployed in ecosystem >>> healing. >>> >>> 3. *Launch Transitional Education Programs*—not to create coders >>> or financiers, but ecosystem interpreters, soil builders, trauma healers. >>> >>> 4. *Implement UBI linked to Earth Work*, funded by taxing >>> planetary destruction (carbon, extraction, pollution). >>> >>> 5. *Begin the Global Narrative Shift*—media, literature, and art >>> must begin to tell a new story: not of dominance, but of return, >>> reciprocity, and repair. >>> ------------------------------ >>> ✨ Final Thought >>> >>> This crisis is not the end. It is a reckoning. The loss of jobs is the >>> *wake-up >>> call*—that our value must no longer be based on production, but on >>> *participation >>> in the biosphere’s healing*. >>> >>> The next beginning is not a new economy—it’s a *new relationship* with >>> life. >>> >>> Would you like to develop these ideas into a manifesto, essay, or >>> curriculum? 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