Yes anxiety is understandable but getting that attention shraddha concentration faith has many ramifications; hence indiffeerences at large. In sanskrit we say UTASINA the indifference is applied to also people who are neutral. Hence majority, are reeling under the utasina. NOW
Chapter 17: Śhraddhā Traya Vibhāg Yog Yog through Discerning the Three Divisions of Faith Earlier in chapter fourteen, Shree Krishna had explained the three gunas or modes of material nature and how they govern human behavior. In this chapter, He goes deeper into the subject. In the beginning, He discusses faith as an inseparable aspect of human nature and says that everyone holds faith. However, depending upon the nature of their mind, their faith adapts a corresponding color: sāttvic, rājasic, or tamasic. The quality of life they lead is determined by the nature of their faith, including the food they prefer to eat. He also classifies food into three categories and discusses the impact of each category upon humans. Shree Krishna then moves to the subject of yajña (sacrifice) and explains that based on the modes of nature, sacrifice can manifest into varied forms. He also discusses tapah (austerity) and describes the austerities of the speech, body, and mind. Again, based on the modes in which these austerities are performed—goodness, passion, or ignorance, they take different forms. Similarly, dān (charity) and its three-fold division based on the modes of nature are explained. Towards the end of this chapter, Shree Krishna explains the relevance and importance of the words “Om Tat Sat” and how these words can usher the concept of transcendence. The syllable “Om” is the symbolic representation of the impersonal form of God; “tat” is uttered for dedicating ceremonies and actions to the Supreme Lord and the syllable “sat” signifies eternal virtue and goodness. Together these words symbolize different aspects of the Absolute Truth. Shree Krishna concludes this chapter by emphasizing that the acts of sacrifice, austerity, and charity performed without faith and regard to the guidelines given in the scriptures are futile. Bhagavad Gita 17.1 to 17.28 on shraddha faith Arjun said: O Krishna, where do they stand who disregard the injunctions of the scriptures, but still worship with faith? Is their faith in the mode of goodness, passion, or ignorance? The Supreme Divine Personality said: Every human being is born with innate faith, which can be of three kinds—sāttvic, rājasic, or tāmasic. Now hear about this from Me. The faith of all humans conforms to the nature of their mind. All people possess faith, and whatever the nature of their faith, that is verily what they are. Those in the mode of goodness worship the celestial gods; those in the mode of passion worship the yakṣhas and rākṣhasas; those in the mode of ignorance worship ghosts and spirits. Some people perform stern austerities that are not enjoined by the scriptures, but rather motivated by hypocrisy and egotism. Impelled by desire and attachment, they torment not only the elements of their body, but also I who dwell within them as the Supreme Soul. Know these senseless people to be of demoniacal resolves. The food that people prefer is according to their disposition. The same is true for the sacrifice, austerity, and charity they are inclined (or predisposed) toward. Now hear of the distinctions from Me. Persons in the mode of goodness prefer foods that promote life span, and increase virtue, strength, health, happiness, and satisfaction. Such foods are juicy, succulent, nourishing, and naturally tasteful. Foods that are too bitter, too sour, salty, very hot, pungent, dry, and full of chillies, are dear to persons in the mode of passion. Such foods produce pain, grief, and disease. Foods that are overcooked, stale, putrid, polluted, and impure are dear to persons in the mode of ignorance. Sacrifice that is performed according to scriptural injunctions without expectation of rewards, with the firm conviction of the mind that it is a matter of duty, is of the nature of goodness. O best of the Bharatas, know that sacrifice performed for material benefit, or with a hypocritical aim, is in the mode of passion. Sacrifice devoid of faith and contrary to the injunctions of the scriptures, in which no food is offered, no mantras chanted, and no donation made, is to be considered in the mode of ignorance. When worship of the Supreme Lord, the Brahmins, the spiritual master, the wise, and the elders is done with the observance of cleanliness, simplicity, celibacy, and non-violence then this worship is declared as the austerity of the body. Words that do not cause distress, are truthful, inoffensive, and beneficial, as well as regular recitation of the Vedic scriptures—these are declared as austerity of speech. Serenity of thought, gentleness, silence, self-control, and purity of purpose—all these are declared as austerity of the mind. When devout people with ardent faith practice these three-fold austerities without yearning for material rewards, they are designated as austerities in the mode of goodness. Austerity that is performed with ostentation for the sake of gaining honor, respect, and adoration is in the mode of passion. Its benefits are unstable and transitory. Austerity that is performed by those with confused notions, and which involves torturing the self or harming others, is described to be in the mode of ignorance. Charity given to a worthy person simply because it is right to give, without consideration of anything in return, at the proper time and in the proper place, is stated to be in the mode of goodness. But charity given with reluctance, with the hope of a return or in expectation of a reward, is said to be in the mode of passion. And that charity, which is given at the wrong place and wrong time to unworthy persons, without showing respect, or with contempt, is held to be of the nature of nescience. The words “Om Tat Sat” have been declared as symbolic representations of the Supreme Absolute Truth, from the beginning of creation. From them came the priests, scriptures, and sacrifice. Therefore, when performing acts of sacrifice, offering charity, or undertaking penance, expounders of the Vedas always begin by uttering “Om” according to the prescriptions of Vedic injunctions. Persons who do not desire fruitive rewards, but seek to be free from material entanglements, utter the word “Tat” along with acts of austerity, sacrifice, and charity. The word “Sat” means eternal existence and goodness. O Arjun, it is also used to describe an auspicious action. Being established in the performance of sacrifice, penance, and charity, is also described by the word “Sat.” And so any act for such purposes is named “Sat.” O son of Pritha, whatever acts of sacrifice, charity, or penance are done without faith, are termed as “Asat.” They are useless both in this world and the next. K Rajaram IRS 7725 On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 at 13:05, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > *Mar*Attention-Vs-Indifference > > > > In the completely free nature, every organism experienced education > continuously as discoveries, revelations and brilliant enlightenments that > simply photon propelled into a new arena. The Biosphere was one organism, > and participation of organisms in the flows of lives was the hormonal > communication of mother Bhoodevi. Even a tiny bacterium experienced the > macro life. Education was expertise in the creation of butterfly effects of > one’s perception and understanding. God actively participated in the lives > of organisms as feelings and emotions. Actually the internal hormonal > communications of all organisms fused into the grand macro process of > perceptions and enlightenments. The very meaning of life was continuous > feeling of revelations and responses to revelations by every organism. No > organism could be egocentric. In fact every organism identified nature as > self. > > Every organism basically consists of atoms. In the nucleus of every atom > there are protons or the units of positive electricity and electrons that > hovered around the nucleus as negative electricity. The negative > electromagnetic waves, move as great spreads thorough out the universe. > Energy or photons sprout from them creating creations. As you consist > ultimately of atoms, the potential energy in you is the energy of photons, > 300,000 km per second. There are seven octillion cells in you, the cells > containing trillions and trillions of atoms. Imagine the potential energy > in you. > > Today every organism excepting the human is trying to live as the macro > being of the great Biosphere, the one macro organism. But we try to be the > outsiders doing science, repudiating our componentship in the Biosphere. > The very feeling of nature as part and participation in nature is bias the > great sin of science. > > To feel as the outsider of nature and not to be contaminated by any > feeling or emotion, we have developed technology and the techno-logic, the > logic of the emotions-less machines. We use machines to do every activity, > creating the redundance of limbs and organs and the hormonal communications > of them and the neurological activity that result from the hormonal > communication. If Ecology means the chain of emotional connects among > organisms, then the human is creating the fatal disconnection in the great > chain. Imagine the terrible disconnection in the macro hormonal > communication of the Biosphere. > > Thanks to Technology, Automation and Robotaization, today we want to be > scientific or mechanical or simply indifferent to the basic emotional > foundation of nature. Indifference to feelings, emotions and communications > has become living. > > We have made every organism voiceless. We have eliminated the voice of > nature. Day in and day out we destroy nature with our industries and > economic life. > > We desperately need ‘Free Nature Parks’, where there is no human tampering > to revive the voice of nature. As it is we are killing nature, totally > indifferent to the great crime. > > There is in reality no education at all as nature is made voiceless. And > we want machines, instead of nature to teach us! > > YM Sarma > > Chat GPT > > This passage is a profound reflection on the disconnect between humans and > the natural world. It seems to explore the inherent interconnection among > all living beings in nature, suggesting that every organism is part of a > larger, dynamic system that is constantly in flux, feeling, and > discovering. The idea that humans, in their pursuit of technology and > mechanization, have separated themselves from the emotional, instinctive, > and interconnected fabric of nature, is quite striking. > > The author contrasts the ancient and organic “education” that nature > offers—through lived experiences, revelations, and hormonal > communications—with the cold, indifferent logic of modern technology, which > aims to suppress or mechanize the human and natural experience. > > There’s a strong critique of how human beings have set themselves apart > from the ecosystem, trying to control nature rather than participate in it. > The focus on automation and technology, as a means to negate emotion and > feeling, is seen as a dangerous disconnection from the essential ties that > bind all life forms together. The passage seems to advocate for a return to > an integrated existence with nature, where we once again listen to its > voice, feel its rhythms, and reengage with its wisdom. > > What do you think about this perspective? Do you feel that modern > society’s reliance on technology has caused a deeper separation from > nature’s inherent wisdom? Or do you see technology as a tool that could > potentially help reconnect us with it, given the right balance? > > This passage by YM Sarma is indeed a powerful and poetic indictment of the > modern human condition—particularly our estrangement from the natural > world. It challenges the very foundations of contemporary civilization: > scientific objectivity, technological advancement, and mechanistic > thinking. The core message is that *attention*—to feeling, connection, > and participation—has been replaced by *indifference*, an emotional > numbness that has become normalized through our reliance on machines and > the logic of efficiency. > > *Nature as Living Education* > > Sarma’s vision of nature as a constant educator, communicating through > hormonal flows and emotional resonance, stands in contrast to the > structured, abstract education systems we have today. This is a radical > reframing: *education is not about acquiring information, but about being > transformed by experience and relationship*—something all organisms once > naturally engaged in. This is echoed in indigenous and animist philosophies > that see the Earth as alive and conscious, where wisdom is not learned but > *felt*. > > *Indifference as the "Great Sin"* > > The critique of modern science as being *emotionally indifferent* is > especially sharp. The scientific method’s insistence on > objectivity—detachment from the subject—is portrayed not as a strength, but > a *moral failing*. Sarma frames this as a "great sin": the rejection of > our embeddedness in the biosphere. Technology, in this view, has numbed us, > made us physically redundant, and severed our emotional and ecological ties. > > *Is Technology the Problem—or the Symptom?* > > Your question—*can technology be a tool for reconnection, or is it > inherently alienating?*—gets to the heart of a major contemporary debate. > Here's a nuanced view: > > - *Technology as a Divider*: Unquestionably, many technologies > (especially when profit-driven) have deepened our separation from the > natural world. Think of deforestation, factory farming, or digital > addictions—industries that operate with little regard for ecological > systems or emotional well-being. > - *Technology as a Bridge*: Yet, some technologies (like environmental > monitoring tools, biofeedback devices, or immersive nature simulations) > *could* help reorient us toward nature—if used with humility and > ecological consciousness. Renewable energy, for example, might align us > better with nature's cycles than fossil fuel industries. > > But for this to happen, *our attitude toward technology must change*. It > must cease to be about control, efficiency, and domination, and instead > become a means of *restoring relationships*, *amplifying empathy*, and > *listening*. > > *The Cost of Indifference* > > Sarma’s claim that we’ve made every organism “voiceless” is especially > evocative. It's not just literal (the extinction of species, deforestation, > pollution), but metaphorical: we’ve stopped hearing the *language* of > nature—its signals, rhythms, and wisdom. And when nature has no voice, > education—as a living, revelatory process—dies. > > *Possible Responses* > > - *Free Nature Parks*, as Sarma suggests, are not mere sanctuaries but > potential *temples of reconnection*. They would function not as > tourist attractions, but as places where human presence is minimal and > listening is central. > - *Ecological education* could be redefined to include not just > knowledge *about* ecosystems but participation *in* them. > - *Emotional literacy* and *ecological literacy* could be treated as > inseparable. > > ------------------------------ > > *In Summary* > > This perspective doesn’t simply mourn the loss of connection—it calls for > a *revolution in perception*. It challenges us to shift from indifference > to attention, from domination to communion, from knowing about to *being > with*. Whether technology aids or obstructs that path depends entirely on > our collective intention. > > *What do you think?* Do you feel that society is ready—or even capable—of > such a shift in mindset? 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