An aviveki as usual showed the manduka brain by simply denying without any effort and also alleging his 4 liner yajurveda which was third cousin of the 4th brother; how dare he trying to exhibit the intelligentsia in the history who had proved beyond doubt? Also ANNA and KANCHI MUTT he is trying to prove as blatant liars as if he is recognised by the earth? As a matter of fact my friends had to locate his residence after a great ordeal where in Singapore he is not even known to closeby and he writes absolute nonsense calling me so and so. Stupid senile narayanasamy KR IRS 6425
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 at 10:47, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > Once a twister of the truth and a blatant liar, always such a twister and > such a liar. > > The latest venture of super-aviveki K Rajaram ex-IRS 6425 to broadcast > deception is no exception. > > He writes boldly and shamelessly:- > > "*asthadik Dasan Gulam opening verse of the Rigvedam showing the distance > as just 10 inches from our abdomen to near the heart.*" > > My comments:- > > Several telescoped lies at one go. > > (1) the purusha sooktham is NOT the opening verse of the r'g-vedam. > > (2) the r'g-vedam opens with the verse "agnimeede purohitham" borrowed > from the yajur-veda samhitha. > > (3) r'g vedam's purusha sooktham does NOT say "asthadik Dasan Gulam". > > (4) it says, instead "athyathishta dashaam angulam". > > (5) it does not show the distance of the head of the virad purusha as > being "just 10 inches from our abdomen to near the heart." > > (6) it declares that the height of the purusha extends from the earth to > the skies. its head spreading in all directions by the width of ten fingers. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Sun, Apr 6, 2025 at 12:25 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> WHAT LIES WITHIN US >> >> >> >> Ralph Waldo Emerson to be reminded that, “What lies behind us and >> what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.” "What >> lies behind us": This refers to our past experiences, actions, and >> memories. It suggests that whatever has happened in our past, whether it be >> successes, failures, joys, or sorrows, is insignificant compared to >> something else. Looking Forward. Emerson emphasizes that our inner >> qualities, such as our character, values, beliefs, and potential, are of >> greater importance than our past or future. Our inner resources are what >> truly define us and shape our lives. These things shouldn’t be taken as >> irrefutable truth. The most valuable aspect lies in how we use these >> limitations to move forward in our life. Everything else acts as a data >> point. It is up to us to decide and define our future paths. The meaning of >> this quote — What lies behind us and what lies before us is to encourage us >> to think beyond our past and inhibitions. We have to let go of our past to >> embrace what our future can be about. >> >> The Metaphor: >> >> The story depicts two birds, inseparable companions, perched on the same >> tree (representing the body). One bird, the Jiva (individual self), is busy >> eating the fruits of the tree (experiences of life), while the other, the >> Atman (Supreme Self), observes without participating. >> >> Symbolism: >> >> The Tree: Represents the body, the realm of experience, and the material >> world. >> >> The Jiva (One Bird): Represents the individual self, bound by ego, >> desires, and the cycle of karma, experiencing both pleasure and pain. >> >> The Atman (The Other Bird): Represents the Supreme Self, the witness >> consciousness, pure awareness, and the ultimate reality. >> >> Significance: >> >> The metaphor highlights the duality of existence: the experiencer and the >> witness, the individual and the universal self. >> >> It suggests that true liberation comes from recognizing the unity of the >> individual and the universal self, transcending the limitations of the ego >> and identifying with the higher self. >> >> It emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and detachment from the >> fruits of our actions, allowing us to experience life with equanimity and >> find inner peace. >> >> Other Interpretations: >> >> Some interpretations also relate the two birds to the relationship >> between the individual soul (Jiva) and the Supreme Soul (Paramatman). >> >> The tree can also be seen as a symbol of the material world, and the >> fruits as the experiences and karmas of the individual soul. >> >> Relevant Texts: >> >> Mundaka Upanishad: This ancient Indian text is a primary source for the >> "Two Birds" metaphor. >> >> Rig Veda: Also mentions the two birds in a similar context. >> >> Svetasvatara Upanishad: Another Upanishad that explores the relationship >> between the individual and the universal self. >> >> Earliest thought what lies within us were in Rigvedam. >> Bhagavad-Gita 2.22 The bird on the left is captivated by the fruits of the >> tree, while the friendly bird on the right acts as witness and waits for >> His friend to turn to Him. >> >> The Vedas, like the Muṇḍaka Upaniṣads, as well as the Svetasvatara >> Upaniṣads, compare the soul and the Supersoul to two friendly birds sitting >> on the same tree. One of the birds (the individual atomic soul) is eating >> the fruit of the tree, and the other bird (Kṛṣṇa) is simply watching His >> friend. Of these two birds – although they are the same in quality – one is >> captivated by the fruits of the material tree, while the other is simply >> witnessing the activities of His friend. Kṛṣṇa is the witnessing bird, and >> Arjuna is the eating bird. Although they are friends, one is still the >> master and the other is the servant. Forgetfulness of this relationship by >> the atomic soul is the cause of one’s changing his position from one tree >> to another, or from one body to another. The jīva soul is struggling very >> hard on the tree of the material body, but as soon as he agrees to accept >> the other bird as the supreme spiritual master – as Arjuna agreed to do by >> voluntary surrender unto Kṛṣṇa for instruction – the subordinate bird >> immediately becomes free from all lamentations. Both the Muṇḍaka Upaniṣad >> (3.1.2) and Śvetāśvatara Upaniṣad (4.7) confirm this: >> >> samāne vṛkṣe puruṣo nimagno >> >> ’nīśayā śocati muhyamānaḥ >> >> juṣṭaṁ yadā paśyaty anyam īśam >> >> asya mahimānam iti vīta-śokaḥ >> >> “Although the two birds are in the same tree, the eating bird is fully >> engrossed with anxiety and moroseness as the enjoyer of the fruits of the >> tree. But if in some way or other he turns his face to his friend the Lord >> and knows His glories – at once the suffering bird becomes free from all >> anxieties.” Arjuna has now turned his face towards his eternal friend, >> Kṛṣṇa, and is understanding the Bhagavad-gītā from Him. And thus, hearing >> from Kṛṣṇa, he can understand the supreme glories of the Lord and be free >> from lamentation. >> >> “Two birds that are always together, cling to the same tree. Of >> these, one eats fruit of various tastes, and the other looks on without >> eating.” Shankara’s commentary on this states that the two birds, the Jiva >> and Atman, both have a common origin and both are associated with the >> temporal world and body which the tree symbolizes. The individual soul or >> jiva clings to the world through its lack of discernment or self-awareness. >> The divine self is able to experience and master the world through the >> organizing power of self-awareness, as a king is said to energize his >> subjects through his mere presence and observation. >> >> This one’s simply of >> >> two birds in a tree: >> >> one sits and watches; >> >> the other eats the fruits.. >> >> this moment, frozen, framed, in time, >> >> takes on the epic stature >> >> of a metaphor, a myth: >> >> what of the previous second >> >> in our passing time? What >> >> of the next second? >> >> Where have those birds come from, >> >> where may they go next? >> >> If we cease to patronise >> >> their ‘bird-brains’, see them >> >> closer to their God than we >> >> whose minds depart so far from nature… >> >> if we think they think, in thoughts >> >> which we may share – then, >> >> what are they thinking? what >> >> do they think of one another? >> >> I look again at the photo, speculate; >> >> the photo grows in my concern >> >> to some great tree of primal Paradise… >> >> the Tree of Knowledge, could it be? >> >> Is the one bird thinking, >> >> what a fine place this is to rest! >> >> A place to hide, if so need be, >> >> among its leaves; a height, >> >> an observation post, >> >> I still, the world about its business; >> >> in stillness, I a little nearer to God, >> >> just a little lower than the angels, >> >> without beating my wings to find >> >> a heaven above… >> >> Is the other bird thinking, >> >> what a fine restaurant I’ve found, >> >> that God provided; I so hungry >> >> on my way; how much I need to eat >> >> to give me strength for further flight… >> >> and have these two birds even noticed >> >> each other, and each other’s state? >> >> Are they two siblings from the self-same nest, >> >> flying together through their lives; >> >> loving one another until the last birdfall? >> >> Two rivals, just about to fight to death? >> >> Or, two fore-flyers of the same great flock, >> >> about to land and strip the tree of fruit, >> >> then rest, God-filled, to know Him in that stillness? >> >> These thoughts; an ancient photograph; >> >> now I wonder about the unknown photographer >> >> who saw the world, in two birds on a tree. >> >> Michael Shepherd ADOPTED FROM OUR Rig vedam >> >> Thus what lies within all of us is the Jeevatma; asthadik Dasan >> Gulam opening verse of the Rigvedam showing the distance as just 10 inches >> from our abdomen to near the heart. Taking it to Paramatma alone is our >> purpose of the birth as humans that too Brahmin if we are proud of. >> >> K Rajaram IRS 6425 >> >> On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 at 04:16, Jambunathan Iyer <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> “What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared >>> to what lies within us.” >>> >>> N Jambunathan Rengarajapuram-Kodambakkam-Chennai-Mob:9176159004 >>> >>> *" What you get by achieving your goals is not as important as what you >>> become by achieving your goals. 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