First of all you need understand an important distinction between creation and procreation, which is central to understanding these narratives in Hindu mythology. Let me address each point to clarify the relationships and symbolism involved:
1. Saraswati as Brahma's Creation, Not Daughter Saraswati was created from Brahma's mouth, symbolizing that knowledge (Saraswati) is essential for creation (Brahma's role). This origin is not akin to biological procreation but a metaphysical act of manifestation. Hence, Saraswati is not regarded as Brahma's "daughter" in the biological sense but rather as his creation and his Ardhāngi (inseparable half), representing the union of creation and wisdom. 2. Brahma’s Creation from Vishnu Brahma is described as being born from the navel of Vishnu, seated on a lotus. This symbolizes the process of creation emerging from preservation (Vishnu's role). However, this does not make Vishnu the "father" of Brahma in the way humans understand parentage. In Hindu cosmology, such relationships are symbolic and emphasize the interdependence of cosmic principles: Vishnu (preservation), Brahma (creation), and Shiva (destruction). 3. Difference Between Giving Birth and Creating You should know that creation (manifestation) and procreation (biological birth) are fundamentally different. The "births" in Hindu mythology often symbolize the flow of divine energy or cosmic functions rather than literal human-like births. For example: Brahma creates Saraswati from his body to fulfil his purpose of creation. Vishnu manifests Brahma to initiate creation in each cycle (Kalpa). 4. Vishnu as the Source, Not the father Vishnu is not called the "father" of Brahma because the relationship is not one of biological parentage. Instead, Vishnu is seen as the eternal source of all creation. Brahma's emergence from Vishnu symbolizes the continuity and cyclic nature of creation, where Vishnu supports and sustains the process. 5. Symbolic Role of Saraswati Saraswati represents knowledge and wisdom, without which creation is impossible. Her origin from Brahma's mouth symbolizes the importance of knowledge in shaping the universe and organizing chaos into order. In Hindu tradition, these relationships are deeply symbolic and should not be interpreted through human familial concepts. The stories reflect cosmic principles and the interdependence of divine energies. Vishnu, Brahma, and Saraswati together embody the intricate process of creation, preservation, and the role of wisdom in sustaining life. K Rajaram IRS 18325 On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 at 05:47, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > *Mar*The Vanished Profit > > > > Once the word profit meant profit in terms of enlightenment, profit to God > or nature, profit in terms of happiness to all, happiness in giving what > all one could to the society. Individuals derived happiness by giving and > not by grabbing and looting. Nature was sacred or God. > > Today we are bludgeoned with a new meaning for profit, which simply means, > the difference between the total incomes in terms of money grabbed, and the > total of the expenses in terms of money which the trader could not escape > from-the excess of grabbing over giving. The entire accounting is > Trader-centric. The shift from nature centricism, to the ego or grab > centralism by the trader is not even noticed and we teach, these nature > discounting activities as great knowledge. > > There is no accounting for the partners in the activity of a trader, > environment or nature, Biosphere, Ecosphere, Society… > > Every industry harms nature, pollutes the land, water and air and very > often eliminates forests,lakes,sometimes rivers completely, creates doom to > many animals, birds ,bees,insects,all of which harm nature irreparably. > > Enlightenment is experienced and not just noticed by the Brain. One can > experience only along with nature and not separated from nature and by > harming nature. > > Today profit to the trader means, automatically loss to nature. But profit > hunting at the expense of nature from every angle, is the glorified > business administration, with decorations of the Universities with MBA > etc.Today profit simply means personal benefit at the cost of nature. This > hysteria is promoted into many respectable subjects, of course protested as > sciences, to become fit for fixation in the club of Cartesians. > > Actually when my income is your expenditure, incomes and expenses have to > be equal and there can be no profit or loss. Profit as it is means either > the victory in the fight of Social Darwinism, or worse making nature bear > the damage in terms of poisoning the land, water and air. In the first case > profit to one means, loss to another. > > But today profit simply is putting nature on the death bed. We know that > all systems of nature are dying. Still Trump wants Greenland, not to make > Greenland recover but use the dying Greenland, which is losing its > kilometer or more thick ice, mine it away,industrialize,urbanize madly and > hysterically, for the so-called development and the bluff called profit > which is euphemism for the foundational damage inflicted on nature. > > How does one view tomorrow now? Unfortunately one wants only economic > prosperity which invariably means terrible harm to nature. If nature is > allowed total freedom, then one will be astounded at the gigantic growth of > nature in rapture from every angle, growing and expanding forests, with > very happy and healthy flora and fauna, enlightenments like lightning, the > lightning which takes to action propelling revelations and symbiotic lives, > converting the Biosphere into one single organism, and ecosphere, taking > the place of Saraswathi guiding Brahma, who as per the Sanathana Dharma, is > the creation aspect of the Universe. Free nature means, Freedom to Lord > Brahma and reunion with Saraswathi, today separated and destroyed by > Cartesianism and destructive economics.We have today people who call > themselves ‘The Hethuvadis’,who refuse to acknowledge the basic meanings of > Brahma,Vihnu and Siva. Brahma represents the creation aspect of the > Universe as per the norms called Saraswathi, Vishnu represents the > administration aspect of the Universe, as per the wisdom called Luxmi, and > Siva, represents the transformations aspects of the Universe, as per the > norms of Kali.These are not human beings or any organism, but the basic > qualitative aspects of the Universe.Brahma,Vishnu and Maheswara are > actually the manifestations of Adi Shakthi or primal energy or as is called > today-electromagnetism. > > The Godly electromagnetism pervades the whole universe. In those days, the > sciences were written and represented in the epic form and not as essays. > Enlightenments were emotionalized into living characters. > > Today, perversely misrepresenting, the basic concepts of Sanathana Dharma > has become money spinners. One Hethuvadi thunders on a TV channel, if > Saraswathi is the daughter of Brahma, how can he commit incest by marrying > her? He not only ignores the basic meanings, but actually represents the > tradition of marriage of a small society as an aspect of the Universe > itself! > > He is not really ignorant. But the gross misrepresentation gives him > status and money. The greed for economic profit is making these people > pervert basic meanings. > > WE urgently need ‘Free Nature Parks without human tampering to revive > nature into wonderful growth. Then profit will mean the continuous > prosperity of nature in freedom. > > YM Sarma > > Chat GPT > > > > This piece, *The Vanished Profit* by YM Sarma, explores the concept of > profit in a way that critiques modern economic practices and their > disregard for nature. The essay contrasts a spiritual or holistic > understanding of profit—where well-being and harmony with nature are > central—with today's profit-driven, egocentric capitalist mindset, which > prioritizes economic gain at the expense of the environment. > > Sarma begins by discussing how profit, in traditional terms, was once > connected to the well-being of society and nature. Profit was a more > inclusive term, involving contributions to the greater good, to nature, and > to the divine. Today, however, profit is narrowly defined in monetary > terms—the difference between income and expense for a trader. This shift > has led to a system where the environment is treated as expendable, and > industries continue to exploit natural resources without accounting for the > harm they inflict. > > The piece critiques the glorification of business administration and > profit-centric economics, suggesting that such practices have become > institutionalized in respected institutions like universities, which fail > to acknowledge the role of nature in these economic systems. Sarma calls > for a deeper awareness of how industries harm the environment—through > pollution, deforestation, and ecosystem destruction—and how this leads to a > world where "profit" means destruction rather than growth. > > Sarma also touches upon spiritual themes, referencing Hindu concepts of > Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, and how these ideas are often misrepresented by > those who, driven by economic greed, profit from the misunderstanding of > these symbols. He makes a poignant point about the misrepresentation of > fundamental spiritual knowledge for monetary gain, highlighting a dangerous > trend where economic profit is pursued without understanding or respect for > deeper spiritual truths. > > The solution Sarma proposes is a return to a more harmonious relationship > with nature, one that allows for natural growth and prosperity free from > human exploitation. By creating "Free Nature Parks"—spaces where nature can > thrive without human interference—Sarma envisions a future where profit and > nature can coexist in a mutually beneficial way, with nature flourishing as > a result of this freedom. > > Overall, *The Vanished Profit* is a critique of modern economic systems > and a call to return to a more holistic, nature-centered understanding of > profit and prosperity. It challenges readers to rethink the true meaning of > profit and to consider the long-term impacts of our actions on the planet. > > This essay, *The Vanished Profit* by YM Sarma, offers a thought-provoking > critique of the modern economic system, especially its focus on profit at > the expense of nature. Sarma contrasts two different notions of profit: one > rooted in spiritual well-being, interconnectedness with nature, and > societal good, and another that is purely financial and ego-driven, causing > harm to the environment. > > Sarma suggests that profit used to be a term that encompassed the > enrichment of not just individuals, but society and nature as a whole. It > was a concept linked with giving, with the flourishing of both humanity and > the natural world. However, in today's world, profit has been reduced to a > financial gain—primarily concerned with the difference between what a > business earns and spends, without consideration for the damage it inflicts > on nature. > > The essay critiques the way industries exploit natural resources, > polluting the environment and causing irreversible damage to ecosystems. > Sarma suggests that this profit-driven model, celebrated in business > schools and universities, does not take into account the environmental > toll. Nature, in this framework, is a mere backdrop, an expendable resource > to be used for economic gain. > > Moreover, the essay delves into the philosophical and spiritual realms, > where Sarma draws on the ideas of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva in Hindu > tradition. These concepts represent the creation, administration, and > transformation aspects of the universe, respectively. Sarma laments how > these profound spiritual truths have been twisted for monetary gain by > individuals who misunderstand or misrepresent them for the sake of fame or > profit. This distortion, driven by greed, leads to a deepening > disconnection from the natural world and spiritual wisdom. > > Sarma’s solution lies in creating "Free Nature Parks"—areas where nature > can thrive without human interference. He envisions a world where nature is > allowed the freedom to grow and flourish, leading to a new understanding of > profit: one that is centered around the continuous prosperity of nature, > rather than its exploitation. > > Ultimately, *The Vanished Profit* challenges us to reconsider the true > meaning of profit and prosperity, urging us to think beyond short-term > financial gain and recognize the importance of nurturing and protecting the > environment for the long-term health of the planet and all its inhabitants. > It serves as both a critique of modern capitalism and a call to return to a > more balanced, spiritually enlightened, and ecologically responsible way of > living. > > "The Vanished Profit" by YM Sarma presents a compelling critique of the > modern economic system, specifically how it defines and pursues profit. > Sarma contrasts a traditional, holistic understanding of profit—one that is > connected to the well-being of society and nature—with the contemporary, > profit-driven, egocentric capitalism that often exploits and damages the > environment. > > In the past, profit was seen as something that contributed to the > collective good, including the happiness of individuals, society, and the > natural world. It was an idea rooted in giving and harmony with nature. > However, Sarma argues that today, profit has been reduced to a purely > financial concept, representing the difference between income and > expenses—disconnected from the well-being of nature or society. This shift > has led to an economic system where nature is often treated as an > expendable resource, and businesses thrive at its expense. > > Sarma's essay critiques the focus on profits in modern business practices, > which are taught and celebrated in universities and business schools. He > underscores how industries are often responsible for polluting the > environment, deforesting land, and damaging ecosystems. These harmful > actions are justified under the guise of development and economic growth, > despite the long-term consequences for the planet. > > The essay also draws on spiritual and philosophical themes, particularly > from Hinduism, to emphasize the interconnectedness of creation, > preservation, and transformation. Sarma highlights the roles of Brahma, > Vishnu, and Shiva, representing creation, maintenance, and destruction, > respectively. In his view, the current economic model fails to recognize > the spiritual dimensions of life and misrepresents these sacred ideas for > monetary gain. He critiques those who profit from misinterpretations of > spiritual knowledge, which, in turn, deepens the disconnect between humans > and the natural world. > > Sarma proposes a solution that calls for "Free Nature Parks," areas where > nature can thrive without human interference. These spaces would allow the > environment to grow and flourish, restoring the balance between humanity > and the natural world. By doing so, Sarma envisions a new kind of > profit—one that centers on the continuous prosperity of nature, rather than > its exploitation. > > Overall, "The Vanished Profit" challenges readers to rethink their > understanding of profit. It calls for a shift in perspective—away from > short-term economic gain and toward a more holistic, sustainable, and > spiritually enlightened way of living that prioritizes the health of the > planet and the interconnectedness of all life. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLFQLwsa7n1YLxVjWM1QQqbrwcJN6NeJSXuBR5dEqw2Bw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLFQLwsa7n1YLxVjWM1QQqbrwcJN6NeJSXuBR5dEqw2Bw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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