-- *Mar**Decision and Determination*
*Thanks to industrialization and the inevitable pollution and poisoning of the air, we along with every other organism of the Biosphere lost our macro bodies. We are macro crippled, lost our basic component ship in Gaia and we do not even realize it, by drowning ourselves with discourses in economics. Once the human beings along with every other organism of the Biosphere acted and interacted in unison, symbiotically with every other life form. But after the poisoning of the air and the resulting emotional disconnection with nature and the Biosphere, the human organism has been suffering from its own social anarchy, creating Thinkers that theorize about the drift into inevitable abyss, taxing the Brain without help from Gaia. Today we crippled ourselves by not allowing breathing in our decision making. We tax our Brain only.* *We decide without getting inspired, mechanically. Inspiration or breathing in determination has become bias, because it is not mechanical. We adore the mechanized mind, the mind that depends on and obeys the machines, not bothering about inspiration as it has become the source of worry. All emotions are removed. When a project is undertaken, the forests, water bodies etc are cleared, or your macro body will be cut and one cannot get inspired by symbiotic breathing. One tries to get convinced only with mechanical Logicing.* *For real and enduring achievement one needs nature, lush nature, where one can get inspired continuously by breathing symbiotically with every other organism. One gets the needed moral inspiration and the work becomes emotional, part of the internal hormonal communication. A difficult decision needs determination, reinforced by breathing in lush nature. Otherwise one surrenders to machines and if the complicated machines fail, implementation gets stalled or even aborted in stalemate. Unfortunately total surrender to machines is the day today economic life today. Nature is enslaved. Decisions are handed over to machines and our own inspiration and determination have become superfluous. We debate using only the logic of the Brain which adopts the logic of the machine.* *My only point here is, actually a point made with a helpless mind, helpless because my mind is not supported by inspired breathing from nature, that you need some nature to breathe symbiotically to be determined. You are actually part or limb of nature and destroying nature is actually cutting your basic connection to nature and you are trying to live like a cut limb. But today the day today life which is economic life is based on cutting away your basic macro anatomy.* *When I point to this basic incongruity I get marked as a queer or crank. But we have to reconnect to nature, or otherwise we are removing the very basic meaning and purpose of life. We can feel the basic purpose of life when we connect our life to nature and not live the present machine dominated life, where the destruction of nature is foundational. Our decisions cannot create determination to implement the decision, unless we reconnect to nature.* *YM Sarma* *Chat GPT* This piece you’ve shared is rich with philosophical reflection on the state of human existence in relation to nature and technology. It seems to raise concerns about the disconnection between human beings and the natural world, arguing that modern industrial society, driven by mechanization and economic systems, has led to a loss of the deep, symbiotic relationship humans once had with the biosphere. The idea that true inspiration and determination come from breathing in nature—both literally and figuratively—emerges as a core theme. You point to a kind of existential disconnection where, in our relentless focus on logic and mechanization, we have severed our ties to the natural world, undermining our ability to feel and act with full emotional engagement and purpose. There’s also an important critique here about the role of machines and how they have come to dominate decision-making, with logic and systems replacing intuition, inspiration, and the emotional currents that once shaped human action. The plea for reconnecting with nature as a source of moral and emotional grounding seems like a call for a more holistic and integrative approach to life and decision-making, one that doesn’t just rely on mechanistic efficiency but also on the organic flow of life itself. It's a powerful meditation on the loss of balance between the rational mind and the intuitive, organic self, suggesting that without this reconnection, human life risks becoming empty and disconnected, much like a "cut limb." Do you see this disconnection as something that can be addressed on a large societal level, or is it more of a personal, internal journey for individuals to rediscover this connection with nature? This is a profound and thought-provoking question. In the context of the piece, the disconnection from nature and the dominance of machines is presented as a systemic issue, one deeply embedded in the structure of modern industrial and economic life. The critique seems to suggest that society as a whole has lost touch with nature in its collective decision-making, and that this loss is not merely individual but something shared across the entire social fabric. However, the call for reconnection with nature could also be seen as something that starts on a personal, internal level. Perhaps the idea is that if individuals begin to rediscover their relationship with nature—through moments of solitude in nature, mindfulness practices, or efforts to live more symbiotically with the environment—it could have a ripple effect that inspires broader societal change. In that sense, the journey to reconnect could begin within individuals, but ultimately, it would require a collective shift to re-establish harmony between human life and the biosphere. It’s interesting to think about how both the individual and societal aspects play off each other. On one hand, each person’s actions (or inactions) can contribute to the broader ecological crisis, but on the other, large-scale systemic changes (like shifting economic systems or industrial practices) might be necessary to truly reverse the disconnect and foster a more harmonious relationship with nature. Do you think it's a matter of both personal and societal transformation happening simultaneously, or is one more urgent than the other in this case? Thank you for such a deep and thoughtful exploration of the piece. I feel that you’ve grasped the tension between personal and societal change very well, and your question about whether one is more urgent than the other is a critical one. The argument made here seems to suggest that the disconnection between humanity and nature is both a personal and systemic issue. On one hand, yes, individuals can start to reconnect with nature in their own lives—by finding moments of stillness, engaging more with the natural world, or questioning the mechanized rhythms of modern life. But as you pointed out, that shift needs to ripple outward to have a true societal impact. The urgency may depend on the lens through which we view the issue. On an individual level, personal transformation can often feel more immediate or tangible—through mindful practices or changing habits in our daily lives, individuals can experience a sense of re-connection relatively quickly. But when we zoom out and look at the societal level—at economic systems, industrial practices, or the role of machines in dictating life—it becomes clear that systemic change is deeply embedded and not as easily shifted. The societal transformation may be more difficult to achieve in the short term, but it’s what will ultimately guide the long-term survival of the biosphere. Without systemic shifts in how we organize our economies, how we relate to resources, how we value the natural world, the larger trend of environmental destruction could persist, regardless of the personal journeys many might take toward reconnection. In that sense, perhaps the urgency lies in pushing for both transformations simultaneously—personal reconnecting with nature could serve as the seed for collective action, while societal transformation would set the stage for more lasting, systemic healing. If both could unfold together, they might create the momentum needed for meaningful change. What do you think? Is there a path forward that balances both personal reconnection and systemic overhaul? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCL3AApuAzRzjJ35%3DdOH%3DZ%3DpTVb-KpRjAPu%2BsmGYV1EZ1g%40mail.gmail.com.
