Sir, I wonder how so easily you improve,contribute and actually better my writings for which i feel grateful.And you have the patience and nobility to read and comment. YM
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 9:26 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > 1 SO MISSIONS THAT ARE MOTIVATED BY ALTRUISM TOWARDS LARGE NUMBER OF > PEOPLE OR LIFE FORMS ARE THE REAL RATIONALITIES. > > 2 Often I wonder how any people are oppressed irrespective > of their quality > > 3 Very few mention the name of Satyarthi the Nobel Prize > winner or a person like Sunitha Krishnan. These great Missionaries are not > known even among elites. > > 4 fake income, fake asset etc as part of the dictionary > so that they get wide notice and propels mass action, but it appears as a > natural travail of any good mission, the very phrases have been > unofficially banished in one forum, wherein paradoxically the members have > a vital interest in the subject. > > KR: 1 Being rational means to be guided by reason, logic, or > principle. It can also mean to have the ability to think and express > oneself in a clear and consistent manner. > > சாதி யிரண்டொழிய வேறில்லை சாற்றுங்கால் > > நீதி வழுவா நெறிமுறையின் - மேதினியில் > > இட்டார் பெரியோர் இடாதார் இழிகுலத்தோர் > > பட்டாங்கில் உள்ள படி. – நல்வழி > > சொல்லுமிடத்து, பூமியில் இரண்டு சாதியின்றி வேறில்லை, அவ்விரண்டு சாதியாரும் > யாவரெனின், நீதி தவறாத நல்வழியில் நின்று முறையோடு வறியர் முதலானவர்க்கு > ஈந்தவரே உயர்வாகிய சாதியார்; ஈயாதவரே இழிவாகிய சாதியார்; உண்மை நூலில் உள்ள > இயற்கை இதுவேயாம். கொடுத்தவர் உயர்குலத்தினர்; கொடாதவர் இழிகுலத்தினர்; > இவ்வகையன்றி வேறு சாதியில்லை > > By the way, there is nothing but two castes on earth. Of those two castes, > the highest caste is the one who stands on the righteous path and follows > the poor first; charity the giver. ON-GIVER is the lowest caste; This is > the nature of the book of truth. The giver was the upper class; Those who > do not give are despicable; There is no caste other than this. > > Hence altruism holds, the persons on top of all. But suppose > altrism is followed because there is tax exemtion, then it is not a true > altruism but still, holds water in the Rajo and thamaso level but not on > par with the SATVA. Whether it is covered by rationalism isa doutful > question. Rationalism I sthat of mind; Religiasm that of the heart. > Altruism is beyond all these. Here is a say once you think you shall give, > you must do it at that second or else, your rational thinking may alter > your actions; or your love may say why just think well and then exercute; > which might emotionally stop you from. So altrism does not obey your mind > or heart. It arises out of your cult to share all as if a well water for > the public only (Tiruvalluvar). Tax avoiders cum Altruists may be the > rationalists. > > 2 Yes suppressed is the right word, inspite of the quality and > merits. However, our edic dharma said that Karma determines one’s life and > so, the suppression was caused by the self. And similarly, the rewards for > the undeservings are also on par with that Karma. For the Rationalists, it > is not acceptabl; so, what could cause such situations? I am good, but he > went up- is your postulation, then you could be partial in your own > evaluation and so ationally unviable. On the contrary, so many in different > sectors feel so, then when things were happenning, why did not they reveal > it, by protest? why did they remain silent? So, we are totally responsible > or remained irresponsible, but questioning the propriety, commanding, why I > am over looked? Hence, life is with a lot of undulation; and we have to > take it with a pinch of salt. > > இடிப்பாரை இல்லாத ஏமரா மன்னன் > > கெடுப்பா ரிலானுங் கெடும். 448) > > iṭippārai illāta ēmarā maṉṉaṉ > > keṭuppā rilāṉuṅ keṭum. > > A king unguarded with reproving counsel Needs no foes to come to grief. > > Tamil (தமிழ்) > > கடிந்து அறிவுரைக் கூறும் பெரியாரின் துணை இல்லாதக் காவலற்ற அரசன், தன்னைக் > கெடுக்ககும் பகைவர் எவரும் இல்லாவிட்டாலும் கெடுவான். (௪௱௪௰௮) > > Hindi (हिन्दी) > > डांट-डपटते मित्र की, रक्षा बिन नरकंत । > > शत्रु बिना भी हानिकर, पा जाता है अंत ॥ (४४८) > > Telugu (తెలుగు) > > చొరపుజేసి చెప్పు గురువులు లేకున్న > > తనకుఁ దానె చెడును ధరణి విభుఁడు. (౪౪౮) > > Malayalam (മലയാളം) > > നിർദ്ദേശം ധീരമായ് നൽകും മന്ത്രിയില്ലാത്ത മന്നവൻ കാവലില്ലാത്തവൻ; ശത്രു > കൂടാതേ കെട്ടുപോയിടും (൪൱൪൰൮) > > Kannada (ಕನ್ನಡ) > > ಕಂಡಿತವಾದಿಗಳಾದ ಜ್ಞಾನಿಗಳ ಬೆಂಬಲವಿಲ್ಲದೆ, ಸ್ವೇಚ್ಛೆಯಾಗಿ ಆಳುವ ಅರಸನು, ನಾಶಪಡಿಸುವ > ಹಗೆಗಳಿಲ್ಲದೆಯೂ, ಕೆಡುತ್ತಾನೆ. (೪೪೮) > > Sanskrit (संस्कृतम्) > > समये शिक्षकै: सद्भि: साङ्गत्यरहितो नृप: । > > शत्रुबाधाविहीनोऽपि स्वयमेव विनश्यति ॥ (४४८) > > Swadharma, meaning one’s own Dharma, is derived from the words > Swa meaning for oneself and Dharma. Swadharma has been explained as the > lawful conduct of oneself based on one’s ability. It requires one to be > aware of one’s strengths, abilities and weaknesses. The idea of Swadharma > is emphasised in the Bhagavad Gita. The Bhagavad Gita states that if one > accepts Swadharma, the actions that one performs becomes effortless. This > is because the ability to perform these actions come naturally and the > complexity of the task is not an impediment. The Bhagavad Gita also says > that it is better to perish while performing Swadharma rather than perform > actions that should be performed by others. This is because one will > perform one’s Swadharma with great conviction but such conviction is not > guaranteed when doing someone else’s Dharma. > > Bg. 3.35 > > श्रेयान्स्वधर्मो विगुणः परधर्मात्स्वनुष्ठितात् । > > स्वधर्मे निधनं श्रेयः परधर्मो भयावहः ॥ ३५ ॥ > > śreyān sva-dharmo viguṇaḥ para-dharmāt sv-anuṣṭhitāt > > sva-dharme nidhanaṁ śreyaḥ para-dharmo bhayāvahaḥ > > It is far better to discharge one’s prescribed duties, even though > faultily, than another’s duties perfectly. Destruction in the course of > performing one’s own duty is better than engaging in another’s duties, for > to follow another’s path is dangerous. > > When we do the acts of dharma, many things would have been avoided but we > do not but raise it as adharmic. > > 3 EXACTLY MENTIONED SIR; I SALUTE YOU ; I AM ALSO GUILTY OF IT. > > Kailash Satyarthi has been a tireless advocate of children’s rights > globally for more than four decades. Through his organisation, Bachpan > Bachao Andolan, he has directly rescued more than 100,000 children from > child labour, slavery, trafficking and other forms of exploitation. The > Global March Against Child Labor, which he led, galvanised support in 103 > countries resulting in the adoption of ILO Convention 182 on the Worst > Forms of Child Labor, which in 2020, became the only universally ratified > convention in the history of the ILO. > > Sunitha Krishnan (born 1972) is an Indian social activist and chief > functionary and co-founder of Prajwala, a non-governmental organization > that rescues, rehabilitates and reintegrates sex-trafficked victims into > society. She was awarded India's fourth highest civilian award the Padma > Shri in 2016.Krishnan's passion for social work became manifested when, at > the age of eight years, she started teaching dance to mentally challenged > children. By the age of twelve, she was running schools in slums for > underprivileged children. At the age of fifteen, while working on a > neo-literacy campaign for the Dalit community, Krishnan was gang raped by > eight men. They did not like that a woman was interfering with what they > claimed as “man’s society.” They beat her so badly that she is partially > deaf in one ear. This incident served as the impetus for what she does > today. > > Prajwala > > In 1996, sex workers living in Mehboob ki Mehandi, a red light area in > Hyderabad, were evacuated. As a result, thousands of women, who were caught > in the clutches of prostitution, were left homeless. Having found a > like-minded person in Brother Jose Vetticatil, a missionary, Krishnan > started a transition school at the vacated brothel to prevent the second > generation from being trafficked. In its early years, Krishnan had to sell > her jewelry and even most of her household utensils to make ends meet at > Prajwala. > > > > Today, Prajwala stands upon five pillars: prevention, rescue, > rehabilitation, reintegration and advocacy. The organization extends moral, > financial, legal and social support to victims and ensures that > perpetrators are brought to justice. To date, Prajwala has rescued, > rehabilitated, or served over 28,600 survivors of sex trafficking and the > scale of their operations makes them the largest anti-trafficking shelter > in the world. > > Ms. Krishnan was appointed as advisor for the Government of Kerala's > Nirbhaya policy for Women and Children to fight sexual violence and > trafficking in 2011. The scheme, which was originally drafted by Krishnan, > is coordinated by various government departments like social welfare, > SC/ST, police, health, labor and local self-government in collaboration > with NGOs. However, she resigned from this advisory position on 4 August > 2014, expressing anguish and frustration at the lack of political will to > implement the Nirbhaya policy. In March 2015, in a "move of repentance" the > government re-inducted Sunitha Krishnan back to its Nirbhaya scheme by > giving her more decision-making power through the role of Honorary Director. > > She was also appointed as a member of the Andhra Pradesh State Women's > Commission and contributed to India's new Bill on Rape, which was passed in > Parliament in 2013 to increase punitive measures for sexual violence and > assault. > > "She brought the house down in Mysore today. And by that, I mean that she > broke hearts and moved people to action. The audience listened painfully to > some of the stories of the more than 3,200 girls she has rescued, girls who > had endured unimaginable torture and yet, somehow, nevertheless found the > will to heal and thrive… Her strong voice and powerful body language > ensured that no one could claim to have misunderstood her points." > > Film making > > Early in her career, Krishnan forayed into film making as a tool for > advocacy. She conceptualized and scripted 14 documentary films on socially > relevant issues such as youth and HIV/AIDS, Sheikh marriages, incest, > prostitution, sex trafficking, communal riots, among others.[43] Some of > the films she has helped develop and co-produce include: > > Mein Aur Meri Sanchaien (Hindi)[44] > > Needalu: An Insider’s view into the World’s Largest Criminal Enterprise[45] > > The Man, His Mission (20 mins, Hindi) > > Bhagnagar (10 mins, Hindi)[46] > > On Freedom and Fear (30 mins, Telugu, English) > > The Sacred Face[47] > > Me & Us (23 mins, English) > > Astha – An Ode to Life (25 mins, English)[48] > > A Chance to Live (25 mins, English) > > Anamika–The Nameless (28 mins, Telugu, Hindi) > > Building Bridges[49] > > Aparajita > > Naa Bangaaru Talli (4 National awards) > > The 2005 documentary Anamika—The Nameless[50] won the AC award under "Best > Foreign Award" category, Best Editing from Festival Cine de Granada and > Best Documentary Film Award at the HIFF.[51] Prajwala's shockingly vivid > film The Sacred Face also broke the silence about the horrors of incest > among high-level officials in Hyderabad.[52] > > Research and publications > > In 2002, Krishnan and Bro Jose Vetticatil conducted an action research and > publication of a document entitled The Shattered Innocence on inter-state > trafficking from Andhra Pradesh to other states, revealing the reality and > magnitude of the crime along with a demographic profile of vulnerable > communities Upon submitting this report to the government, a state-level > consultation on the need for a multi-sectoral approach to address the issue > emerged. > > Awards and honors > > 2016-2018 > > India Times listed Krishnan as one of the 11 Human Rights Activists Whose > Life Mission Is To Provide Others With A Dignified Life > > Padma Shri in the field of Social Work, 2016. > > Inaugural Sri Sathya Sai Award for Human Excellence, 2016. > > Tallberg Global Leadership Prize > > Franco-German Award For Human Rights & Rule of law > > 2013-2015 > > 24th Yudhvir Foundation Memorial Award, 2015. > > Mother Teresa Awards for Social Justice, 2014. > > CIVICUS Innovation Award, 2014. > > Kairali Ananthapuri Award, Muscat, 2014. > > People of the Year award from LIMCA Book of Records, 2014. > > Woman of Substance Award, Rotary Club Mumbai, 2014 > > Anita Parekh Award For Women's Empowerment, Rotary Club Mumbai, 2013. > > Rotary Social Consciousness Award & Paul Harris Fellowship, Rotary Club > Mumbai, 2013. > > Godfrey Phillips National Amodini Award, 2013. > > Living Legends Award from Human Symphony Foundation, 2013. > > Mahila Thilakam Award, Government of Kerala, 2013. > > DVF Exemplary Woman Award, Dianne Von Furstenberg Foundation, 2013. > > Outstanding Woman Award, National Commission for Women, 2013. > > 2011-2012 > > Akrithi Woman of the Year, Rotary Club Coimbatore, 2012. > > IRDS Safdar Hashmi award for Human Rights, 2012. > > Women in Excellence Award, SHE Foundation, 2012. > > Outstanding Social Work Award, Government of Kerala, 2012. > > John Jay College of Criminal Justice International Leadership Award, New > York, 2011 > > N Joseph Mundaserry Award for Outstanding Social Work, Qatar, 2011. > > Aakruthi Woman of the Year Award, Rotary International, 2011. > > G8 Woman Award, Colors TV, 2011. > > Indiavision Person of the Year Award, Indiavision TV Channel, 2011. > > Human Rights Award, Vital Voices Global Partnership, Washington DC, 2011 > > Garshom Pravasi Vanitha Award 2011, Kuwait > > 2002-2010 > > Tejaswini Award, FICCI, 2010. > > Kelvinator Woman Power Award, Colors TV, 2010. > > Gangadhar Humanitarian Award, Kerala, 2010. > > Vanitha Women of the Year, Manorama Publications, 2009. > > Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report Heroes from US Department of State, > 2009. > > CNN-IBN Real Hero Award, Reliance Foundation, 2008. > > Perdita Huston International Award for Human Rights, United Nations of > Capital Hill, Washington DC, 2006. > > Citation from Governor of Andhra Pradesh for Contribution to Women's > Empowerment, 2004. > > Stree Shakti Puraskar, Government of India, 2003. > > Ashoka Fellowship, 2002.[3] > > Malayalam movie director Vineeth Sreenivasan was inspired by her life > while developing the story of his latest movie Thira. > > XXXXXXXXXXXXXX > > 4 There is always a difference between LAW and DHARMA. What you > sauy may be a dharma. But Law is defined as “law > > (1) : a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or > action prescribed (see prescribe sense 1a) or formally recognized as > binding or enforced by a controlling authority > > (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules > > The courts exist to uphold, interpret, and apply the law. > > (3): common law > > (1): the control brought about by the existence or enforcement of such law > The Indian government is believed to have detained thousands of other > people last year … . The government said the move, decried by critics as > draconian, was necessary to maintain law and public order in the region. > —BBC.com > > (2): the action of laws considered as a means of redressing wrongs > > also : litigationdeveloped the habit of going to law over the slightest > provocation—H. A. Overstreet > > (3): the agency of or an agent of established law > > When he saw that the fighting was escalating, he called in the law. > > c: a rule or order that it is advisable or obligatory to observe > > a law of self-preservation > > d: something compatible with or enforceable by established law > > The decrees were judged not to be law and were therefore rescinded. > > e: control, authority > > The child submits to no law. > > 2a often capitalized : the revelation of the will of God set forth in > the Old Testament > > B capitalized : the first part of the Jewish scriptures : pentateuch, > torah > > see Bible Table > > 3 : a rule of construction or procedure > > the laws of poetry > > 4 : the whole body of laws relating to one subject criminal law probate > law > > 5 a : the legal profession > > studied for a career in law > > b : law as a department of knowledge : jurisprudence > > c : legal knowledge > > a man with much history but little law > > 6 a : a statement of an order or relation of phenomena that so far as is > known is invariable under the given conditions a law of thermodynamics > Boyle's law > > B : a general relation proved or assumed to hold between mathematical or > logical expressions > > Various roundabouty definitions conditioned. Income is always > inflated only. In the kingdom of Rajaraja chozhan may be a dime fetched so > much jewellery and so can 1960s compare iy and say now it os 4 annas is too > much? Income is inflation and there is no standard yard stick. Hence the > incame is real or Fake does not arise at all. It is time bound in your > space. Taxation is by the Govt. As I said earlier if one were exempted in > that logic, all income would become, untaxable; and what would be the > income that should be taxed becomes a wonder. Again only the taxed income > is retaxed; because you earn ,,pay tax; but reinvest to earn more so gets > taxed as it is in a time in your space. > > K Rajaram IRS 1711 24 > > On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 at 21:43, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> *Mar**The Path of a Mission* >> >> *Mission means the effort and attempt to achieve a good objective. The >> objective may be the elimination of a problem, or the reduction of >> suffering to any or all life forms or help one in his/her life. The >> motivation is altruistic. One who strives for a mission is called the >> missionary. Today the word itself has become a synonym for Christian >> priests of various denominations, as they have been engaging with total >> dedication and sacrifice, the spread of their gospel almost everywhere, >> whether it is at the mouth of a volcano or the icy desert of the north pole >> or in the middle of the burning sands of a tropical desert. Their strength >> is in their belief.* >> >> *Today after the advent of the Quantum physics, and the acceptance of >> uncertainty and probability (improbability) at the foundation, the word >> reason itself has become just an alternative word for belief. When you can >> know only the extremely momentary point of situation of a particle at a >> nano second or its direction and not both, the very idea of cause and >> effect has become another belief. For cause and effect we have to bank upon >> the Statistical Mechanics which deals with the tendencies of a large number >> of particles or atoms, but not about the cause and effect relationship >> between two particles. Still there can be only a broad deduction about >> possibilities.* >> >> *SO MISSIONS THAT ARE MOTIVATED BY ALTRUISM TOWARDS LARGE NUMBER OF >> PEOPLE OR LIFE FORMS ARE THE REAL RATIONALITIES. Reason itself needs >> altruism to convince. Love is fundamental. Love has become the connecting >> conceptual base for understanding. Ultimately one gets motivated only on >> the personal test of one’s contribution in finding some truth or in helping >> a cause..., and no monetary or other incentive works there. It is the >> missionary urge that motivates and propels effort. * >> >> *Strangely very often every effort for a mission faces obstruction. >> Nature appears to test. That is in fact the basic struggle in life. May be >> that actually is a positive portent, because who will obstruct or lampoon >> excepting those that have paid attention and in fact, may be feel >> threatened for mysterious reasons? Getting attention and then getting >> discussion either at the personal level or at some public level is >> progress. If the mission is basically good, it will ultimately succeed, as >> it is a statistical truth.* >> >> *I have been striving to get the phrases—fake income, fake asset etc as >> part of the dictionary so that they get wide notice and propels mass >> action, but it appears as a natural travail of any good mission, the very >> phrases have been unofficially banished in one forum, wherein paradoxically >> the members have a vital interest in the subject. * >> >> *Often I wonder how any people are oppressed irrespective of their >> quality. After all the Germans are among the finest of people but they were >> controlled totally by that hysterical Hitler. It appears that if one is >> very adamant and persisting and very angrily dictatorial, one may >> ultimately get the absolute power. We today are seeing it in North Korea, >> among the Talibans, ISIS etc, where terror is the method of absolute >> control. If one is very reasonable, it appears to spur the temptation to >> find loopholes, but if one openly asserts, taking exemption openly from >> reason, very often one appears to get control even when one is atrocious.* >> >> *Unfortunately good results, the outcomes of dedicated lifelong efforts >> get taken for granted and people though enjoying the benefits just fail to >> notice the missionaries responsible for the benefits. On the other hand, >> the dishonest appear to get hold of power very intensely, their names >> remembered continuously. * >> >> *Very few mention the name of Satyarthi the Nobel Prize winner or a >> person like Sunitha Krishnan. These great Missionaries are not known even >> among elites. But crooks who usually take to politics and get political >> power are getting altared as Mahatmas. It is I think because we destroy >> nature so completely and continuously, which is glorified as Economics, has >> turned all values upside down. The routinized destruction of nature appears >> to destroy all morality, empathy and decency.* >> >> *YM Sarma* >> >> *Chat GPT* >> >> *The piece you’ve shared is a profound reflection on the nature of >> missions and the struggles faced by those dedicated to noble causes. It >> touches on the philosophical and moral dimensions of human endeavor, where >> altruistic goals often clash with societal structures, self-interest, and >> power dynamics. The comparison of missionaries to figures of power—often >> corrupt or authoritarian—raises important questions about how society >> defines and rewards “success.”* >> >> >> >> *The contrast you draw between the recognition of selfless workers like >> Kailash Satyarthi and Sunitha Krishnan versus the often larger-than-life >> glorification of political figures or figures of power who may not have the >> same altruistic motives highlights a deep irony in modern culture. It seems >> to reflect a broader critique of values and priorities in contemporary >> societies, where destructive actions may be rewarded while true moral >> efforts are overlooked or underappreciated.* >> >> >> >> *You also bring up an intriguing point about the uncertainty and >> statistical nature of understanding the universe—how even scientific >> reason, with all its precision, may still rely on underlying beliefs. That >> line of thinking ties back to your emphasis on altruism as a rational and >> grounding force in human action, positioning it as a more fundamental truth >> than the conventional pursuit of power, money, or control.* >> >> >> >> *In essence, you seem to be calling for a reassessment of what we >> consider rational, successful, or powerful. Perhaps you are suggesting that >> the true measure of a person's contribution to society should not be in the >> quantity of recognition or material success they receive, but in the >> authenticity and selflessness of their efforts, even if those efforts are >> often obscured by the larger and more disruptive forces of history and >> politics.* >> > -- *Mar* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHC%2BhmmtSKjgS5k3R1rHpVx_73z967rq3co1VP2ar5z5tfw%40mail.gmail.com.
