CULTURAL QA 08202419

Topic-General, Base Quora QA-Compiled

Q1        Is there evidence of an advanced civilization existing before
ancient history? If so, where was it located?

KR:         I ghad already gave a detailed write up on all these when
Gopalakrishnan did raise the same q and A some months back; he does read
his own and does not read others; he wants only originally written Vedas
and epics and many treatises of others as ours, then only will he read or
else will only cut and paste QUORA without even revising his materials nor
reading. Patrick is more intelligent and learned than ourt Ondian
archeologists as when Gopalkrishnan interviewed all of them, except patrick
all failed, Great personity we have in our group. Worshipful GO-PALA.

{A1 Patrick S, keen interest in Archaeology May 11  Yes, there is evidence
to suggest the existence of advanced civilizations predating ancient
history. One intriguing example is the Indus Valley Civilization, also
known as the Harappan Civilization, which thrived around 3300–1300 BCE in
present-day Pakistan and northwest India. This civilization was highly
advanced for its time, boasting well-planned cities with sophisticated
drainage systems, brick houses, and a form of writing that has yet to be
fully deciphered.     nother compelling case is the Göbekli Tepe site in
modern-day Turkey, believed to have been constructed around 9600 BCE. This
archaeological site consists of massive stone pillars arranged in circles,
suggesting a complex understanding of architecture and possibly even
religious or ceremonial practices. The age of Göbekli Tepe challenges
traditional timelines of human development, hinting at the presence of
advanced societies much earlier than previously thought.     Moreover, the
ancient city of Caral-Supe in Peru dates back to around 2600 BCE and is
considered one of the oldest urban centers in the Americas. The layout of
the city, complete with pyramids, plazas, and residential areas, indicates
a high level of social organization and urban planning. The people of
Caral-Supe were skilled in agriculture, trade, and architecture, showcasing
a level of sophistication that defies conventional views of early
civilization in the region.      Additionally, the ancient city of Cahokia
in present-day Illinois, USA, flourished between 1050 and 1350 CE and was
home to a complex society with a population estimated to be larger than
that of London at the time. Monks Mound, a massive earthwork at the center
of the city, suggests a hierarchical society capable of organizing
large-scale construction projects and maintaining social order.}

KR:        Egypt is one of the oldest-known civilizations in history. The
origins of this civilization date to around 3100 BCE when King Menes, the
first pharaoh, unified upper and lower Egypt in 3150 BCE. Before that time,
several cultures had been thriving in the area for thousands of years. But
the unification created a complex civilization that would go on to create
some of the greatest wonders in history. (KR That is how system of
civilisations were forced on us)

Before the recent finding, Ancient Egypt and the Indus Valley were believed
to have begun roughly around the same time. However, the recent findings
have established a huge gap between the two civilizations, suggesting that
the Indus Valley began around 6000 BCE and not 3300 BCE. This is more than
2,500 years earlier than previously recorded, making it far older than
ancient Egypt, if validated.

While this recent discovery may be met with resistance by the creators of
the more widely-known timeline of ancient civilizations, it may likely be
accurate. If validated, this discovery could lead to a rewrite of ancient
history. Currently, more research is being carried out. Early findings
indicate that the Indus Valley Civilization was at an advanced stage of
urbanization and was regularly trading with its neighbors.{KR: Dhadas are
there who will not permit true history of India but..}

An archaeological dig in the trenches of Dhaba in central India’s upper Son
river valley has uncovered traces of human occupancy dating back over
80,000 years. Between 80,000 and 65,000 years ago, an international team of
researchers discovered evidence of ongoing human habitation in this region.
The tools discovered at Attirampakkam are almost 3,85,000 years old.
Because this technology is assumed to have been developed by archaic or
potentially modern people in Africa around the same period, researchers
were able to establish an estimate of when the tools were discovered. The
discovery brings the start of the Middle Palaeolithic culture in India
thousands of years forward. It places it around the time when Homo Sapiens
first arrived in the area. This discovery calls into question the widely
held belief that this technology arrived in India only 1,25,000 years ago. {KR
British theory is language and civilisation take hardly 10000 years for
them; will it apply to others and will it be resisted, if for the east?
Then civilisation couldhave been there even 100000 years back but digging
must be done for 10 times deeper than the ordy excavatiopns now being done)}

By 10,200 BC, fully developed Neolithic cultures, characterized by the
Pre-Pottery Neolithic A (PPNA) and Pre-Pottery Neolithic B (7600–6000 BC)
phases, emerged within the Fertile Crescent. These cultures diffused
eastward into South Asia and westward into Europe and North Africa.[20]
Among the notable PPNA settlements is Jericho, located in the Jordan
Valley, believed to be the world's earliest established city, with initial
settlement dating back to around 9600 BC and fortification occurring around
6800 BC. “Mesopotamia is the earliest urban literate civilization on the
globe—and the Sumerians, who established the civilization, established the
ground rules,” says Kenneth Harl, author, consultant and professor emeritus
of history at Tulane University. “Those who know how to research and write
run the civilization and everyone [else] does the grunt work.” {KR: This
myth is also now blown}

One of the earliest Neolithic sites in the Indian subcontinent is Bhirrana
along the ancient Ghaggar-Hakra riverine system in the present day state of
Haryana in India, dating to around 7600 BC. Other early sites include
Lahuradewa in the Middle Ganges region and Jhusi near the confluence of
Ganges and Yamuna rivers, both dating to around 7000 BC.

Narasimhan et al. (2018) introduced the term AASI, "Ancient Ancestral South
Indian" (AASI) for these oldest human inhabitants, which were possibly
distantly related to the common ancestors of East-Eurasians such as Andaman
Islanders (such as the Onge), East Asians, and Australian Aboriginals.  The
present-day Andamese are considered to be part of the "Negritos", several
diverse ethnic groups who inhabit isolated parts of southeast Asia.

Metspalu et al. (2011) detected a genetic component in India, k5, which
"distributed across the Indus Valley, Central Asia, and the Caucasus".]
According to Metspalu et al. (2011), k5 "might represent the genetic
vestige of the ANI", though they also note that the geographic cline of
this component within India "is very weak, which is unexpected under the
ASI-ANI model", explaining that the ASI-ANI model implies an ANI
contribution which decreases toward southern India. According to Metspalu
et al. (2011), "regardless of where this component was from (the Caucasus,
Near East, Indus Valley, or Central Asia), its spread to other regions must
have occurred well before our detection limits at 12,500 years."

The reference is to a "recent study", and gives Kivisild et al. (1999).
Kivisild (1999) does not mention the number 12,500, nor does it explicitly
make such a statement. What it does state is that western-Eurasian and
Indian mtDNA lineages overlap in haplogroup U; that the split between the
western-Eurasian and Indian U2 lineages appeared circa 53,000 ± 4,000 years
before present and that "despite their equally deep time depth, the Indian
U2 has not penetrated western Eurasia, and the European U5 has almost not
reached India."[48] They further note that wester-Eurasian mtDNA lineages
did spread in India at the time of the spread of agricultural crops from
the fertile Crescent Metspalu et al. (2011) do refer to 12,500 years ago
(10000BCE)

Thus the cradle of civikisation from Indian acreage increased with
archilogical factos.

And Our ASI and media keep releasing tags; west may resisrt is not a
problem. Oldest civilisation proving through Archealogy is so difficult
since, as the earliest thrashes, lie at the bottom layer while 3000 to 5000
BCE level alone we may dig with our scientific tools.

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Q3       Can humans handle an unlimited amount of scientific discoveries?
Is there a limit to how much science humans can handle?

KR WHAT A NONSENSICAL Q AND A.

Q4       How did humans first learn to farm land?

KR:    Another silk rd senseless answer to the question and he is a
learned?

According to Doniger, Hinduism may have roots in pre-historic (pre-textual,
pre-Vedic) Mesolithic prehistoric religion, such as evidenced in the rock
paintings of Bhimbetka rock shelters, which are about 10,000 years old (c.
8,000 BCE), as well as neolithic times. Wendy Doniger: "The process,
sometimes called 'Sanskritization', began in Vedic times and was probably
the principal method by which the Hinduism of the Sanskrit texts spread
through the subcontinent and into Southeast Asia. Sanskritization still
continues in the form of the conversion of tribal groups, and it is
reflected in the persistence of the tendency among some Hindus to identify
rural and local deities with the gods of the Sanskrit texts."

Bhimbetka is situated 45 kilometres south of Bhopal on Hoshangabad road in
the district of Raisen in the state of Madhya Pradesh between the
geo-coordinates 24005’N and 76045’E. There were about seven hundred sixty
two rock shelters of different periods of which more than four hundred have
rock paintings. Perhaps this number is largest in the world for a single
complex. The site is scattered over an area of 10x3 kilometres, in northern
range of main Vindhyan system. The entire area is covered by dense
vegetation. UNESCO declares the rock paintings of Bhimbetka, a World
Heritage Site in 2003. The antiquity of Bhimbetka may be dated to nearly
1,00,000 years. There are more than four hundred rock paintings which
belong to different periods. The colors used were vegetable colors. The
site was excavated by V S Wakankar of Vikram University, Ujjain; V N Misra
of Deccan College Post Graduate and Research Institute, Pune; Sussan Haas,
of the Museum fur Volkerkunde, Basle, Switzerland and others during the
field seasons 1971-72 to 1976-77. Further the excavations at Bhimbetka were
carried out by K D Banerjee, S S Gupta and others of Prehistory Branch of
the Archaeological Survey of India during the field season of 1981-82. The
excavations revealed that these rock shelters were occupied by the settlers
during lower Palaeolithic period and continued with breaks up to late
Medieval period.

Lower Palaeolithic Period-The excavation at the site revealed two working
floors. Artifacts yielded Acheulian 1 tools, more handaxes than cleavers,
pebble tools, flakes and choppers. These tools were made of quartzite and
sandstone.

 Middle Palaeolithic Period-The excavations revealed the some artifacts
from this deposit like scrapers, flakes, points and borer. Quartzite was
used for these tools.

Upper Palaeolithic Period-The deposit of this period comprised thin blades,
single and double-end scrapers on blade, side scrapers, borers, burins,
flakes and cores; lunates some were large sized, and points. It was noticed
that during this period these shelters were painted. The paintings in the
cave depicted the figures of bison, boars and stick like human.

 Mesolithic Period-The artifacts recovered from this period were blunted
back blades, lunates, burins and side and end-scrapers, triangles,
trapezes. Chert, chalcedony and jasper were commonly used for making tools.
Few blades on sandstone were the other specimens of this period. Burials of
a child and an adult were also exposed in the excavation. A number of
haematite pieces with rubbed faces showing their use for making colour for
paintings. Other antiquities included quern and mullers. Red ware was
introduced during this period at the site. The paintings in this period
depicted the figures of communal dances, birds, mothers and children, men
carrying dead animal and pregnant women.

Chalcolithic Period-The excavations revealed the use of microliths
including long flakes and blades. The occurrence of painted pottery, which
possibly was inspired through contacts with Malwa, was an important
introduction at this site.

 Copper objects, steatite beads, 2 and rubbed haematite pieces were the
other noteworthy findings of this period. Faunal remains were represented
by bones of deer, boar, antelope, and peacock. The paintings of this period
depicted the figures of men and women, birds and animals etc. The paintings
also revealed that the dwellers of this period were in the contact with the
agriculture community of Malwa, exchanging goods with them.

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K Rajaram IRS  19824

On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 08:32, Gopala Krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:

> CULTURAL QA 08-2024-19
>
> Topic-General, Base Quora QA-Compiled
>
> Q1        Is there evidence of an advanced civilization existing before
> ancient history? If so, where was it located?
>
> A1        Patrick S, keen interest in Archaeology May 11
>
> Yes, there is evidence to suggest the existence of advanced civilizations
> predating ancient history. One intriguing example is the Indus Valley
> Civilization, also known as the Harappan Civilization, which thrived
> around 3300–1300 BCE in present-day Pakistan and northwest India. This
> civilization was highly advanced for its time, boasting well-planned cities
> with sophisticated drainage systems, brick houses, and a form of writing
> that has yet to be fully deciphered.
>
> Another compelling case is the Göbekli Tepe site in modern-day Turkey,
> believed to have been constructed around 9600 BCE. This archaeological site
> consists of massive stone pillars arranged in circles, suggesting a complex
> understanding of architecture and possibly even religious or ceremonial
> practices. The age of Göbekli Tepe challenges traditional timelines of
> human development, hinting at the presence of advanced societies much
> earlier than previously thought.
>
> Moreover, the ancient city of Caral-Supe in Peru dates back to around
> 2600 BCE and is considered one of the oldest urban centers in the Americas.
> The layout of the city, complete with pyramids, plazas, and residential
> areas, indicates a high level of social organization and urban planning.
> The people of Caral-Supe were skilled in agriculture, trade, and
> architecture, showcasing a level of sophistication that defies conventional
> views of early civilization in the region.
>
> Additionally, the ancient city of Cahokia in present-day Illinois, USA,
> flourished between 1050 and 1350 CE and was home to a complex society with
> a population estimated to be larger than that of London at the time. Monks
> Mound, a massive earthwork at the center of the city, suggests a
> hierarchical society capable of organizing large-scale construction
> projects and maintaining social order.
>
> Q2       What is wrong with India?
>
> A2    Nitesh Sharma,Superintendent at Central Board of Excise and Customs
> (2023–present)6y
>
> Recently, a worker joined in my office as a contingent. He cleans toilets,
> table-chairs and maintains garden for us.
>
> I got shocked when I came to know that he has done BA, B.ed. in education.
>
> I asked him why he is doing a job like contingent instead of a job like
> teacher or tutor.
>
> He told me that he tried in government exams twice but he got failed. He
> has completed B.ed. in Kannada language. He told that Kannada teachers have
> no value and are paid less salary in any school. Nobody takes tution of
> Kannada language also.
>
> He told that he tried some influence for getting a job also but they were
> asking huge amount.
>
> Private schools are offering him 5000/— and here as a contingent, he is
> getting 10000/—. So that's why he chose this one.He comes from a poor
> family and he needs to earn money anyhow.
>
> So this is the condition of a well educated  person in our country.
>
> Getting a job is not a big deal but not getting a deserving job is a
> problem of our country.
>
> His degree has no value now.
>
> There are many well educated people who are facing such kind of problems.
>
> They are facing lack of sources, poverty and ignorance.
>
> Q3       Can humans handle an unlimited amount of scientific discoveries?
> Is there a limit to how much science humans can handle?
>
> A3       Jay Bazzinotti, Never stop creating.20h
>
> They pick and choose what they want to believe, limit or handle.
>
> In my area of Maine, there are an enormous (and growing) number of
> Mennonites who seem to have bizarre views. For example, the women have to
> be chaste and wear long dresses and hats but the men can wear whatever they
> want as long as they wear a hat. I see them plowing with modern plows
> pulled by teams of horses. And get this - they cannot drive cars UNLESS THE
> CAR IS BLACK. Then it is okay. The color, apparently, has some impact on
> the performance. They twist and shape whatever science and technology is
> out there to limit it fit their strange beliefs.
>
> There is another Mennonite family that runs the local U-haul rental. Their
> house has very little technology, no television, no microwave, but there in
> the locked office is the cellphone and the computer for renting cars and
> trucks and calling customers. The manager passes through two locked doors,
> there to prevent his family from accessing the forbidden technology, where
> he then rents you a truck, all while wearing a black coat and hat.
>
> But then, technology exists to serve us and we decide how to implement it.
>
> Q4       How did humans first learn to farm land?
>
> A4       Silk Road, Physics/History Connoisseur, AI Machine Learning.12h
>
> For millennia, our ancestors weren't exactly rocket scientists, but they
> weren't complete dummies either.
>
> They noticed things.
>
> Like how those tasty berries always seemed to grow back in the same spot
> after they'd gorged themselves.
>
> Or how those wild grains sprouted up thicker where they'd accidentally
> dropped some seeds the season before.
>
> It wasn't some grand master plan, more like a series of happy accidents
> and gradual realizations.
>
> "Hey, maybe if we poke some holes in the ground and chuck those seeds in,
> we won't have to wander so far to find food next time."
>
> Of course, it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows.
>
> Early farming was backbreaking work. Clearing land, planting seeds,
> protecting crops from pests and weather – it was a gamble.
>
> But those who figured it out had a serious edge.
>
> Suddenly, they weren't just chasing their next meal, they were creating it.
>
> That meant more food, more people, more time to develop other skills, like
> making pottery or brewing beer (priorities, people!).
>
> Sure, there were setbacks.
>
> Droughts, floods, locusts – nature always had a few tricks up its sleeve.
> But over time, we got better at it.
>
> We domesticated animals, developed irrigation, even started selectively
> breeding plants.
>
> Went from scrabbling for survival to shaping the very landscape around us.
>
> In the end, it wasn't about mastering nature, it was about working with it.
>
> And that, my friend, is how we went from cave-dwelling hunter-gatherers to
> the architects of civilization.
>
> Not bad for a bunch of apes with a knack for noticing patterns, eh?
>
> Q5       What are some of the amazing facts about Indian Independence?
>
> A5       Aashish Kumar Dimri, One who loves India, · Thu
>
> * Astrology : Surya Narayan Vyas, a known Vedic astrologer ,advised Dr.
> Rajendra Prasad -president of Constituent assembly- to declare Independence
> at 12 AM,15th August 1947 * Date : Sir Cyril Radcliffe -known for Radcliffe
> line that divides Indian and Pakistan- had originally suggested June 6,
> 1948 as the date to declare Independence
>
> Japan : Lord Mountbatten, second world war hero, chose 15th august to
> commemorate Japanese surrender to allied forces on 14th august 1945.
>
> Tricolor : Indian Tricolor flag was first hoisted at the Princess Park
> near India Gate on August 15th 1947.
>
> Vande Matram : In absence of national anthem ; Shrimati Sucheta Kripalani,
> later Chief minister of Uttar Pradesh, sang Vande Matram song, in Indian
> constituent assembly.
>
>   King : George 6th , then King emperor of India, became titular King of
> India.    His title was abolished after establishment of the Republic of
> India January 26th , 1950.
>
>  Trivia : Around 500000 Indians had gathered outside Constituent Assembly
> in Delhi to celebrate Independence of India,
>
>     Well : Khana Viran Dekhaye Kaha Ghar Karte Hain
>
> Khush Raho Ahle Watan Ham Toh Safar Karte Hain : Ram Prasad “Bismil
> “(Indian martyr)
>
> Translation : With an empty house ; while searching for a home , Remain
> happy, my beloved country ; I depart to eternity)
>
> Note : Bismil recited his self composed lines till his very end.
>
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