Black holes start from the collapse of massive stars or through the
accumulation of mass in galactic centres. They end at the event horizon, a
boundary beyond which nothing can escape. The singularity at the core
represents a point where current physical theories cannot adequately
describe the conditions. Black holes are found throughout the universe, in
both stellar forms scattered across galaxies and supermassive forms at the
centres of galaxies. Understanding black holes is a major area of research
in astrophysics, offering insights into the fundamental nature of gravity,
space, and time. A black hole is a region in space where the gravitational
pull is so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape from it. The
boundary of a black hole is called the event horizon, beyond which no
information can escape.
Black holes form from the remnants of massive stars that have ended their
life cycles. Here are the key stages in their formation:
Stellar Evolution: Stars go through a life cycle that depends on their
mass. Massive stars undergo fusion reactions in their cores, converting
hydrogen into heavier elements and releasing energy.
Supernova Explosion: When a massive star exhausts its nuclear fuel, it can
no longer support itself against gravitational collapse. The core
collapses, leading to a supernova explosion that blows away the outer
layers of the star.
Core Collapse: If the core's remaining mass after the supernova is above a
certain limit (around three times the mass of the Sun, known as the
Tolman–Oppenheimer–Volkoff limit), it will collapse under its own gravity
into a singularity, forming a black hole.
Ending Point: Event Horizon
Event Horizon: The event horizon marks the "point of no return." For an
outside observer, this is where a black hole ends, as beyond this boundary,
nothing can escape the black hole’s gravitational pull. The event horizon's
size is determined by the black hole's mass.
Singularity: At the very center of a black hole, the laws of physics as we
know them break down. This point, called the singularity, is where the
black hole's mass is thought to be concentrated.
What Happens at the Event Horizon and Beyond?
Approaching the Event Horizon: As an object approaches the event horizon,
it experiences extreme gravitational effects, including time dilation (time
slows down relative to an outside observer) and spaghettification
(stretching due to tidal forces).
Crossing the Event Horizon: Once an object crosses the event horizon, it
cannot return. It will inevitably move towards the singularity.
Inside the Event Horizon: Theoretical physics suggests that within the
event horizon, space and time behave in ways that are not yet fully
understood. General relativity predicts a singularity where density becomes
infinite, but quantum effects are expected to play a crucial role in this
extreme environment.
The above is science rather the Physics. Boudeekam. is reflected by the
Lord in B G as in chap 7,"
साधिभूताधिदैवं मां साधियज्ञं च ये विदुः । प्रयाण-कालेऽपि च मां ते विदुर्
युक्त-चेतसः ॥ ३० ॥
sādhibhūtādhidaivaṃ māṃ sādhiyajñaṃ ca ye viduḥ | prayāṇa-kāle'pi ca māṃ
te vidur yukta-cetasaḥ || 30 ||
sa-adhibhūta–underlying principle of the gross material elements of the
cosmos; adhidaivam–underlying principle of the demigods; mām–Me;
sa-adhiyajñam–underlying principle of all sacrifices; ca–and; ye–who;
viduḥ–know; prayāṇa-kāle–at the time of death; api–even; ca–and; mām–Me;
te–they; viduḥ–know; yukta-cetasaḥ–with minds attached to Me.
Those who know Me as the presiding deity, or governing principle, of the
gross material elements (adhibhūta), the demigods (adhidaiva) and sacrifice
(adhiyajña), and whose minds are attached to Me, remember Me even at the
time of death. Śrī Bhagavān is saying, “Those who, by the power of My
bhakti, know Me as the governing principle of adhibhūta-tattva,
adhidaiva-tattva and adhiyajña-tattva can remember Me at the time of death.
They are not fearful of death because they do not forget Me.”
VAISESHIKA SUTRA -PHYSICS-BOUDEEKAM IN VEDIC TIMES
Sūtra 9.1.1 (Perception, e.g., of antecedent non-existence...)
क्रियागुणव्यपदेशाभावात् प्रागसत् ॥ ९.१.१ ॥
kriyāguṇavyapadeśābhāvāt prāgasat || 9.1.1 ||Prak+ a+ sat
kriyā-guṇa-vyapadeśa-abbāvāt—in consequence of the non-existence of
application or predication of action and attribute; prāk—prior,
antecedently; a-sat—non-existent.
1. In consequence of the non-application of Action and Attribute (to it),
(an effect is) non-existent prior (to its production.)—227.{KR status; I am
sleeping; and I woke up; did write something; went to sleep. WHICH IS LIFE
HERE? ACTION OR SLEEP? WHAT WAS NOT THERE APPEARED AS ACTION AND
DISAPPEARED; WHAT WAS (prak) AS (A+ SAT=ASAT) NONEXISTENT, AND APPERED TO
HAVE EXISTED WENT BACK AS BLACK HOLE NONEXISTANT; AND MAY RECYCLE TO APPEAR
BAK AS maya. Vaisheshika sutra explained the singularity or a Black hole.
‘An effect,’—such is the complement of the aphorism. ‘Prāk,’ i.e., prior to
the production of the effect, ‘an effect,’ e.g., a water-pot, cloth, etc.
‘a-sat,’ (i.e., non-existent), that is to say, the counter-opposite or
contradictory
of the contemporaneous non-existence of its own producer. Here the reason
is the impossibility of the application of action and attribute*. If the
effect, e.g., a water-pot, etc., were really existent during that time
also, then it would be affirmed to possess action and attribute. *As in the
case of a water-pot already produced reference can be made to it in such
forms as “The water-pot is at rest,” “The water-pot is in motion,” “The
water-pot is seen to possess colour,” etc., there can be no reference made
to it in like manner also prior to its production. It is therefore inferred
that the water-pot is during that time non-existent, And this, antecedent
non-existence; in such cases as while straws are in the course of weaving
or threads in the course of joining, or when clay is placed on the potter’s
wheel, while the activity of the potter, etc., is yet going on, is the
universally experienced perceptual cognition that there will be in that
place a mat, or a piece of cloth, or a water-pot, inasmuch as such
cognition takes placets soon as the eyes are opened. Here proximity or
presentation constituted either by conjunction or by combination cannot be
the cause of the cognition. {west cognitive science is so crisply
explained by us long ago} Hence proximity or presentation in which the
thing in itself or the qualification or distinction of that which is
connected with the sense, (indriya samboddha viśeṣanatā) is here the
necessary *condition of perception*. It cannot be said that in this
explanation there is mutual dependence (of cause and effect) in as much as
the-distinction of antecedent non-existence being existent, there is
perception of it and the perception being existent, there exists the
distinction for the characteristic of being the distinction is here really
the proper or essential form of both the cause and the effect and it is
capable of producing perception in which both are mutually involved and
that is-really existent even prior to the perception so it has been
declared in. the Nyāya-Vārtika, “In the case of combination as well as if
Non-existence, the relation of viśeṣya that which serves to specify and
viśeṣya that which is specified, (is the proximity between the sense and
the object).”
This same antecedent non-existence is productive of its counter opposite
(that is, the object not yet existent). For when a water-pot is produced,
it is not produced just at that very moment. Even though the other
(partial) causes existed at the time, the imperfectness of the cause, being
pursued, should pursue only the imperfectness consisting of the antecedent
non-existence of the water-pot itself. If it be objected that the
(antecedently non-existent) water-pot itself would then be an impediment to
its own production; our reply is that since, by its non-existence at the
time, *it constitutes the absence of impediment, its causality also should
not be thrown away*. Nor can it be objected that the water-pot itself
constituting the non-existence of its antecedent non-existence, it would
follow that its antecedent non-existence will again appear when the
water-pot is destroyed; for, the destruction of the water-pot also is
repugnant to its antecedent non-existence, so that there can be no
appearance of a contradictory also during the existence of another
contradictory. For the contradiction between them is not merely spatial, so
that they might be simultaneous like (the genera of) bovine-ness and
horse-ness. The contradiction is temporal also, and therefore how can they
be existent at one and the same time? —.
Note. — In this and the few following aphorisms, the author deals with the
topic of non-existence. Now, non-existence is primarily divided into two
kinds, saṃsarga-abhāva and anyonya-abhava. Anyonya-abhāva or reciprocal
non-existence is characterised as nonexistence of which the
counter-opposite (i.e., the object non-existent) is determined by the
relation of identity; in other words, it is equivalent to absence of
identity, that is, difference. Saṃsarga-abhāva or relational non-existence
is non-existence other than reciprocal non-existence, and it is sub-divided
as antecedent, consequent, and absolute non-existences.
Sūtra 9.1.2 (Consequent non-existence also is proved by perception and
inference)
सदसत् ॥ ९.१.२ ॥
sadasat || 9.1.2 ||SAT ASAT
sat—existent; a-sat—non-existent.
2. The existent (becomes) non-existent.
It is not Vadivel joke. THE MARK OF THE ABSENCE CANNOT BECOME LACK OF
EVIDENCE; THE MARK OF THE PERCEIVED ONES, CANNOT BE JUSTIFIED AS THE
EXISTENCE AS EVIDENCE SHOW IT IS ABSENT. All are in one form in a
singularity the Brahmam which has everything; one who knows the Brahmam,
can always see all as only SAT. For others, unless the Brahmam manifested
it all, appeared as ASAT.
Now let us see the first verse in Rigvedam 10 129 NASADIYA SUKTAM:
The famous Nasadiya Sukta (Samskrit: नासदीय-सूक्तम्) starts with the 129th
shloka (followed by 6 more shlokas) of the 10th Mandala
<https://dharmawiki.org/index.php?title=10th_Mandala&action=edit&redlink=1> of
the Rigveda
<https://dharmawiki.org/index.php?title=Rigveda&action=edit&redlink=1>. The
shlokas here raise and answer the eternal question about the Origin of Life
or सृष्टिः || Srishti
<https://dharmawiki.org/index.php/Srishti_(%E0%A4%B8%E0%A5%83%E0%A4%B7%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%83)>.
These shlokas have attracted a large body of literature of commentaries
both in the east and west and volumes of books are dedicated just for this
सूक्तम् ॥ sukta. A paradoxical concept but these shlokas present a divine
harmony of the existent and not existent in the Universe.
The cosmos was covered with udaka (उदकम् । an aspect of water/oblation) and
lacked the splendor that it has today. The Lord through his great qualities
and determination wanted to give form, shape and future to the Cosmos. This
was possible by His mere contemplation and this intention of the Lord came
into existence as जगत् || Jagat (Cosmos). Jagat was said to exist, in a
different form or material, before it’s creation as what was non-existent
cannot be the substratum of Creation. The fundamental material from which
srishti is said to have arisen is said to be that पदार्थः || padartha
without name and form, and hence inaccessible to the gross senses. It is
called असत् || asat present in its अव्यक्त || avyakta (invisible) or seed
form as opposed to सत् || Sat which has form, and is manifested, functional
and accessible to the senses.
All the लोकाः ॥ Lokas or worlds and Space were non-evident before Creation.
The सूक्त-दर्शी || sukta darshi (the seer) was amazed as the Universe
slowly took form and contemplated as follows
How did the परमपुरुषः || Paramapurusha exist while holding the unmanifest
creation?
Where did the animals and their different emotions reside?
Were the original ingredients of पञ्चभूतानि || panchabhutas deep and
profound?
Did the concept of immortality and mortality exist?
Asat and Sat describe the change of state of the fundamental material that
makes up the Creation. But the primary life force in this matter is none
other than the Parampurusha who manifests Himself as the चैतन्यशक्तिः
॥ Chaitanya
shakti in all beings.
The concept of ‘Nasadiya’ is explained through different analogues
(analogies) in the Vedas. According to the Rig veda,
देवानां पूर्व्ये युगेऽसतः सदजायत ॥२॥ देवानां युगे प्रथमेऽसतः सदजायत । तदाशा
अन्वजायन्त तदुत्तानपदस्परि ॥३॥ (Rig. Veda. 10.72.2 and 3)[3]
devānāṃ pūrvye yuge'sataḥ sadajāyata ॥2॥ devānāṃ yuge prathame'sataḥ
sadajāyata । tadāśā anvajāyanta taduttānapadaspari ॥3॥ (Rig. Veda. 10.72.2
and 3)
Meaning: The सृष्तिकर्ता ॥ Srishtikarta created the Cosmos like the
carpenter, much before the Devas and Sat appeared from Asat. {KR? how can
it be? because ASAT and the SAT are one and the same}
Paramapurusha's influence over the creation spread like the rays of the sun
in all directions. Then the कर्म ॥ karma (action) and the resultant
reaction along with the living entities appeared. The world, which was made
of पञ्चभूतानि || panchabutas (five elements) appeared along with the
material things. But is there not someone who can understand this srishti
and स्थितिः ॥ sthiti as it is? Only the श्रुति-s || Srutis can reveal the
secrets of Creation to us. Even the greatly knowledgeable देवताः ॥ devatas
are not beyond this creation, so how can they explain beyond their own
creation? Only the Paramapurusha, the Creator who is also the Sustainer of
this Universe can be the cause of such phenomenal creation.
परमात्मा ॥ Paramatma is one, and the विश्वम् || Universe (Cosmos) is His
manifested greatness. Srishti is in one sense Asat (a formless, seamless
expansion of space) and Sat (causal forms). Thus, the main components of
Srishti are Life or Consciousness and conscious beings. When the
transformation from Asat to Sat takes place, Srishti or Creation is said to
happen. While the opposite of this, which is transformation of Sat to Asat
is called विनाशः ॥
शतपथ-ब्रह्मणम् ॥ Shatapata Brahmana
The concept of Asat getting transformed to Sat has been mentioned in the
Agnicayana Kanda of Shatapatha Brahmana.
असद्वा इदमग्र आसीत् । तदाहुः किं तदसदासीदित्यृषयो वाव तेऽग्रेऽसदासीत्...(Shat.
Brah. 6.1.1.1)
Meaning: Verily in the beginning there was here the असद् ॥ Asat or
non-existent. To that they say, 'What was that non-existent?'....
सोऽयं पुरुषः प्रजापतिरकामयत भूयान्त्स्यां प्रजायेयेति सोऽश्राम्यत्स
तपोऽतप्यत स श्रान्तस्तेपानो ब्रह्मैव प्रथममसृजत... (Shat. Brah. 6.1.1.8) [8]
so'yaṃ puruṣaḥ prajāpatirakāmayata bhūyāntsyāṃ prajāyeyeti... (Shat. Brah.
6.1.1.8)
Meaning: Now this person Prajapati desired, 'May I be more than one,
reproduced'. He worked incessantly and undertook austerities to first
create Brahman. {KR Kindly note that Brahmam wanted to create first the
BRAHMA; THOUGT FROM THE THOUGHT}
नासदासीन्नो सदासीत्तदानीं नासीद्रजो नो व्योमा परो यत् । किमावरीवः कुह कस्य
शर्मन्नम्भः किमासीद्गहनं गभीरम् ॥ NASADIYA SUKTAM VERSE 1
nāsad āsīn no sad āsīt tadānīṃ nāsīd rajo no vyomā paro yat | kim āvarīvaḥ
kuha kasya śarmann ambhaḥ kim āsīd gahanaṃ gabhīram ||
“The non-existent was not, the existent was not; then the world was not,
not the firmament, nor that which is above (the firmament). How could there
by any investing envelope, and where? Of what (could there be) felicity?
How (could there be) the deep unfathomable water?”
न । अस॑त् । आ॒सी॒त् । नो इति॑ । सत् । आ॒सी॒त् । त॒दानी॑म् । न । आ॒सी॒त् ।
रजः॑ । नो इति॑ । विऽओ॑म । प॒रः । यत् । किम् । आ । अ॒व॒री॒व॒रिति॑ । कुह॑ ।
कस्य॑ । शर्म॑न् । अम्भः॑ । किम् । आ॒सी॒त् । गह॑नम् । ग॒भी॒रम् ॥
Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya
The non-existent: sat, asat: visible and invisible existence (asat śaśa
viṣāṇa vatrirupā khyam nāsīt: Taittirīya Saṃhitā 7.1.5.1); matter and
spirit, prakṛti and puruṣa; the First Cause or Brahmā was in the beginning
undeveloped in its effects, and existed before both; investing envelope:
each element as created or developed is invested by its rudiment; of what
could there be felicity: i.e., of whom or of what living being could
enjoyment, or fruition, whether of pain or plural asure, be predicated,
there being no life?
In case still non understood: GO TO TIRUMULAR
Thirumanthiram Wooden Elephant
"Marathai Maraithathu Mamara Yanai
Marathil Marainthathu Mamara Yanai !
Parathai Maraithathu Parmuthal Bhootham
Parathil Marainthathu Parmuthal Bhootham !!
This is simple yet strong poem from Thirumoolar. This poem is using wooden
elephant toy as an analogy to perceive God or Absolute Reality.
Elephant hides the Wood (ASAT)
Elephant got hidden in the Wood (SAT)
Gross nature hides the God (ASAT)
Gross nature got hidden by the God (SAT}
WHITE HOLE IS THE SPACE; BLACK HOLE IS ALSO THE SPACE; WHITE IN BLACK AND
THE BLACK IN WHITE. MATTER IS CONSTANT.
in short, when you see the elephant in the toy, we don't see the wood. when
we see the wood in the toy, we don't see the elephant. like that whatever
we know as "us" is what prevents us from understanding absolute reality.
When we see absolute reality, we cannot see this gross nature.
Blackhole is punched into a lot of black holes to form a singularity in
SAMHARAM; the total singularity merge into the SAT; remain as ASAT ; in
srishti, manifested as WHITEHOLE; INTERMEDIARY SAMHARAM BECOMES WASTES AND
DUSTS,SO SHELTERED INTO THE DUST BIN -black hole. Do any once again see
into the dustbin to check? NO. Dust bin is thrown away. But under creation
wastes re produce through the recycling of the matter to products.
PINDATHIL ULLADHU ANGATHILUM UNDU. (open your mouth and say whether
understood?)
K RAJARAM IRS 14624 15624
On Fri, 14 Jun 2024 at 22:45, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> --
> *Mar*The Counter Big Bang-Return to Singularity
>
>
>
> This is all my speculation only, just armchair rambling.
>
> What is happening to the electromagnetic waves eaten by a Black hole? Are
> neutrons manufactured there by fusing the electrons and protons creating
> the neutron stars, very dense bodies? Are black holes meeting other black
> holes creating bigger and bigger black holes, all of which together
> becoming smaller in volume with increasing density? Is a black hole a step
> to return to the Singularity, ultimately?
>
> At the center of every galaxy there is a black hole. In fact many
> gigantic black holes are discovered not only in the nucleus of our Milky
> Way or Akasaganga, but also in many other locations?
>
> An atom is a very unstable thing. The protons in the nucleus, all of which
> being positively charged want to escape from the nucleus but held or bonded
> together by the neutrons, while the electrons are hovering around to join
> the protons in the nucleus. An atom can end up containing only neutrons,
> when the electrons eventually succeed in reaching the protons of the
> nucleus. It may be happening now?
>
> What are we doing to nature at the most fundamental level with our
> technology, industrialization etc.We are certainly destabilizing the
> molecules from their natural state. Are there molecules disintegrating into
> atoms, thanks to our economics? What is the effect of our atomic reactors,
> at the most fundamental level? Are we unleashing a gigantic butterfly
> effect, towards Singularity with our economic/scientific tampering?
>
> An atom may end up with all electrons joining the protons in the nucleus.
> We have the Neutron Stars, very dense bodies. Their gravitational pull is
> very strong. Do they fall into the black hole at the nucleus of the galaxy?
> Eventually there will be only black holes only in the Universe and they may
> fuse. Then do they constrict into Singularity?
>
> Are the gravitational waves, waves from black holes? Do the bodies
> swimming in space; sink into a black hole being caught by gravitational
> waves?
>
> Or is the Universe expanding and also contracting, in the cosmic breathe
> Pneuma, expounded by Aleximander, the, the Greek Philosopher?
>
> YM
>
> Chat GPT
>
> Your speculation touches on several intriguing aspects of cosmology and
> fundamental physics. Let's break down and discuss some of the ideas you've
> raised:
>
>
>
> ### 1. Electromagnetic Waves and Black Holes
>
> When electromagnetic waves (such as light) enter a black hole, they do not
> come out. Instead, they contribute to the mass and energy of the black
> hole. Inside the event horizon (the boundary beyond which nothing can
> escape), our current understanding of physics breaks down, including the
> behavior of matter and radiation.
>
>
>
> ### 2. Neutron Stars and Black Holes
>
> Neutron stars are indeed very dense remnants of massive stars. They form
> when the core of a star collapses under gravitational pressure during a
> supernova explosion, leading protons and electrons to combine into
> neutrons. However, neutron stars are not necessarily destined to fall into
> black holes. They can exist independently or be part of binary systems
> where one could potentially evolve into a black hole over long time scales.
>
>
>
> ### 3. Black Hole Mergers and Singularity
>
> When black holes merge, they create a larger black hole. The volume of a
> black hole, defined by its event horizon, does not change in a
> straightforward manner—it's the mass that increases, leading to increased
> density at the singularity. A singularity is a point of infinite density
> and gravity at the core of a black hole, where our current understanding of
> physics (specifically, general relativity) breaks down.
>
>
>
> ### 4. Technology and Nature
>
> Human activities certainly influence our environment and potentially the
> fundamental states of matter. While industrialization and technology affect
> molecules and atoms on Earth, their impact on cosmic scales like black
> holes and the universe's evolution is minimal in comparison to natural
> processes.
>
>
>
> ### 5. Gravitational Waves
>
> Gravitational waves are ripples in space-time caused by massive
> accelerating objects, such as black holes merging or neutron stars
> spiraling into each other. They propagate outward from their source at the
> speed of light and are a direct prediction of Einstein's theory of general
> relativity.
>
>
>
> ### 6. Cosmic Expansion and Contraction
>
> The universe is indeed expanding, as observed through the redshift of
> distant galaxies. The idea of a cyclical universe (expanding and
> contracting in a recurring pattern) has been proposed in various
> cosmological models, though current observational evidence suggests the
> expansion is accelerating due to dark energy.
>
>
>
> ### Conclusion
>
> Your thoughts encompass a broad range of cosmic phenomena and
> philosophical musings about the nature of the universe. Many of these ideas
> are subjects of ongoing scientific research and debate, driven by
> observations from telescopes and experiments in particle physics. Exploring
> these concepts further can deepen our understanding of the universe's past,
> present, and future.
>
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