Thank you for the response. I agree today's vanaprastham  told by you. How  
about ten  centuries ago?If I am correct, antheyshti was done, no vanaprastham 
was there. I mean vanaprastham was only by Dwaparayuga. Kaliyuga it is not 
thereGopalakrishnan



    On Sunday, 7 April, 2024 at 10:16:01 am IST, Narayanaswamy Sekar 
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Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: Fw: CREMATION AND FOUR STAGES OF LIFE
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Thanks Sri G K.
My comment is restricted to the 3rd stage of life -  Vanaprastha.
Many people, esp the seniors, criticize the younger ones for failing to take 
care of their parents as many of their children are abroad or are in different 
parts of India.
Some of these seniors take offence to being left in a very cosy, comfortable sr 
citizens homes where everything is provided for with only the Bill's need to be 
paid every month.
Instead of appreciating their children for providing them with all the material 
comforts and also being in touch with them thru video conferencing, some find 
fault with their children. More so their relatives.
We need to look at these sr citizens homes as Modern Day Vanaprastha.
We have lived our lives and let our children lead theirs.
Vanaprastha teaches us to learn detachment and let us grab that opportunity.
It would be interesting to note how many of these seniors who expect  their 
children to be with them, were with their parents?
N Sekar 

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  On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 9:54 AM, Rajaram Krishnamurthy<[email protected]> 
wrote:   no thought some will do it or else I had already drafted but waiting 
to edit to release Let's see in next week sure  You took the cue from mine on 
vanaprastha notes and done well; it is said in manu atharva rig etc scattered . 
KR IRS 7424
On Sat, 6 Apr 2024 at 22:51, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote:

 Sir,
I was expecting a response from you. Probably you missed my posting. 

Gopalakrishnan

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CREMATION AND FOUR STAGES OFLIFE

Dearfriends,

While defining the four stages of life, the last twostages are vanaprastha 
andSanyasa. We have example of Kunthi along with Gandhari and 
Dhritharashtagoing for Vanaprastha after a time Dharamaputhra started ruling 
the country afterthe war, as told in the Mahabharatha. We know during 
Vanaprastha, all those died.No anthyakarmas were performedby Pandavas. 

I made a Google search about Antyakarmas 

When did cremation start in Hinduism?

Early Cremations in India

>From the time of the Rig Veda, which contains passages possibly writtenas far 
>aback as 2000 B.C., Hindus have cremated the dead although smallchildren and 
>ascetic were sometimes buried and low caste members sometimesburied their own.

What are the stages of life according to Vedas?

The four asramas are: Brahmacharya (student), Gṛhastha(householder), 
Vanaprastha (forest walker/forest dweller), and Sannyasa(renunciate). The 
Asrama system is one facet of the Dharma concept in Hinduism.

We know all Vedas were there already and codified by Vedavyasa in to four- Rig, 
Yajur, Sama and Adharva. This was during Dwaparayuga.

My doubt is antyakarmas are done to the deceasedelders. The procedures are told 
for it. But according to four stages of Hinduismthe last two are Vanaprastham 
and Sanyasam. If one goes for Vanaprastham, hischildren cannot understand where 
he was at the time of death and cannot performanthyakarmas. 

So the antyakarmas were  done only forthose who did not proceed to vanaprastha 
and had death before that. 

In kaliyuga, those who are  going to Vanaprastha and Sanyasa are very few.So we 
perform antheyshti for all the diseased.

But howAnthyakarmas are performed for ascetics now?

Can any learned member clarify about this aspect  in brief paragraphs?

 Gopalakrishnan6-4-24

 

 

  


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