Sarama, I had sent an email, ripping open his lies; read and change the title to tour anna. OK? KR 17324
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 08:02 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] SIXTH SENSE To: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Cc: Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>, iyer < [email protected]>, Venkat Giri <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> *Respected Narayanaswamy Anaaa and Shri GK-ji* *What do pigs born out of incestuous liaison consummated in a public lavatory know about such things. * *You are wasting your time on a sub par sub human bastard * On Mon, 18 Mar, 2024, 5:36 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear folks > > Early yesterday I wrote:- > > *"The more a know-nothing unlearned, unschooled, uneducated moron such as > Rajaram K alias KR ex-IRS alias Karuppan-chaami spouts about seven senses, > sixth sense, and the kato upanishad and the bhagavath-geetha, the more he > reveals that he has no sense at all, whether of good or or evil, and lacks > that supreme quality -- PERCEPTIVE INTELLIGENCE.* > > *"But there is no substitute at all for diligent study of our vedams, our > smruthis, our puraanams under the proper guidance of eminent capable > experienced c**ommitted gurus at a very early age. And retaining that > upadesam till old age, and living by those tenets"*. > > Please let me elaborate. > > Our vedams, including the Yajur-vedam, tell us that we are blessed from > birth with our karmendriyams and our jnanendriyams -- not only our five > senses (KR ex-IRS has discovered two more) but also our other innate > abilities. > > The Yajur-veda thaiththireeya braahmanam, in its Ashtakam II, prapaatakam > VI, anuvaakams 17 and 18, spells out the different additional senses, or > indriyams:- > > -- gaayathreeem cchanda indryam l thrayavim gaam vayo dadhath ll > > -- ushniham cchanda indriyam l dithyavaaham gaam vayo dadhath ll > > -- anushtubham cchanda indriyam l thrivathsam gaam vayo dadhath ll > > -- bruhatheem cchanda indriyam l panchaavim gaam vayo dadhath ll > > -- pangthim cchanda ihendriyam l thuryavaaham gaam vayo dadhath ll > > -- thrishtubham cchanda indriyam pashtavaaham gaam vayo dadhath ll > > -- jagathim cchanda ihendriyam l anadvaaham gaam vayo dadath ll > > -- viraajam cchanda ihendriyam l dhenum gaam na vayo dadhath ll > > -- dvipadam cchanda ihendriyam l ukshaanam gaam na vayo dadhath ll > > -- kakubham cchanda ihendriyam l vashaam vehatham na vayo dadhath ll > > -- athichchandasam cchanda indriyam l bruhathdrushabham gaam vayo > dadath ll > > -- ushnikcchanda indriyam l dithyavaadgaurvayo dadhuhu ll > > -- anushtupchchanda indriyam l thrivatho gaurvayo dadhuhu ll > > -- brugathee cchanda indriyam l panchaavir gaurvayo dadhuhu ll > > -- pangthi shchanda ihendriyam l thuryavaad gaurvayo dadhuhu ll > > -- thrishuup cchanda indriyam l pashtavaadgaurvayo dadhuhu ll > > -- jagathee cchanda ihendriyam l anadvaan-gaurvayo dadhuhu ll > > -- viradcchanda ihendriyam l dhenurgaurna vayo dadhuhu ll > > -- dvipachchanda ihendriyam l ukshaa gaurna vayo dadhuhu ll > > -- kakuccanda ihendriyam l vasho vehadgaurna vayo dadhuhu ll > > -- athi scchando scchanda indriyam l bruhadrushabho gauryayo dadhuhu ll > > My comments:- Each and every one of our sacred manthrams require chanting > according to one or other of these cchandas. So, these are not merely > "tunes", "senses" or "accents". The skills of chanting according to the > appropriate cchandas need to be acquired under the guidance of competent > gurus. > > S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 8:46 AM Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> Dear folks >> >> The more a know-nothing unlearned, unschooled, uneducated moron such as >> Rajaram K alias KR ex-IRS alias Karuppan-chaami spouts about seven senses, >> sixth sense, and the kato upanishad and the bhagavath-geetha, the more he >> reveals that he has no sense at all, whether of good or or evil, and lacks >> that supreme quality -- PERCEPTIVE INTELLIGENCE. >> >> *The senseless reproduction by cut-and-paste of tons of gross verbiage >> might well impress some unwary deviants.* >> >> But there is no substitute at all for diligent study of our vedams, our >> smruthis, our puraanams under the proper guidance of eminent capable >> experienced committed gurus at a very early age. And retaining that >> upadesam till old age, and living by those tenets. >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 11:37 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> We all learned the five senses in elementary school: sight, smell, >>> hearing, taste and touch. But did you know we actually have seven senses? >>> The two lesser-known senses are vestibular and proprioception and they are >>> connected to the tactile sense (touch). >>> >>> Vestibular sense involves movement and balance. It is the sense of >>> where our body is in space. Close your eyes for a minute and take a quick >>> inventory of your body. Even without seeing or touching, you know where >>> your arms and legs are in space. Vestibular sense is important because it >>> helps us stand, walk and sit up without falling over. >>> >>> Proprioception is also called body awareness sense. This sense helps us >>> understand where our body parts are in relation to each other. It also >>> helps us figure out how much force to use in different activities (think of >>> picking up a fragile glass versus a gallon of milk). >>> >>> These two senses help round out our ability to connect and interact with >>> the world around us. Vestibular and proprioception, when combined with >>> our other five senses, are referred to as sensory processing. Sensory >>> processing is crucial for motor, speech, cognitive, learning, social, >>> attention and behavioural development. >>> >>> The Senses. >>> >>> Sight or vision >>> >>> Hearing or audition >>> >>> Smell or olfaction >>> >>> Taste or gustation >>> >>> Touch or tactition >>> >>> However, neurologists would count, and agree on, at least nine senses. >>> A broadly acceptable definition of a sense for neurologists would be a >>> group of sensory cells that responds to a specific physical phenomenon, and >>> that corresponds to a particular region of the brain where the signals are >>> received and interpreted. Some things that we lay-folks might refer to as >>> “senses”, such as the sense of direction for instance, are defined by >>> neurologists as post-sensory cognitive activities and don’t count in this >>> definition >>> >>> >>> >>> symbols representing the five senses >>> >>> Because there is some overlap between different senses, different >>> methods of neurological classification can yield as many as 21 senses. >>> And this number does not include some physiological experiences such as, >>> for instance, the sensation of hunger or thirst. Generally agreed senses >>> for neuroscientists currently include: >>> >>> Thermoception - the sense of heat (there is some debate that the sense >>> of cold may be a separate sense) >>> >>> Nociception - the perception of pain >>> >>> Equilibrioception - the perception of balance >>> >>> Proprioception - the perception of body awareness (close your eyes and >>> touch your nose. Got it first time? That's proprioception in action) >>> >>> Not happy with up to 21? Eco-psychologist Michael J Cohen puts the >>> number of senses at our disposal at 53. His definition of a sense goes >>> beyond the physiological phenomenon/nerve sensor definition. He breaks the >>> senses down into four categories: >>> >>> The radiation senses: sense of colour, sense of moods associated with >>> colour, sense of temperature. >>> >>> The feeling senses: sensitivity to gravity, air and wind pressure, and >>> motion. >>> >>> The chemical senses: hormonal sense, such as pheromones, hunger for >>> food, water or air. >>> >>> The mental senses: pain, external and internal, mental or spiritual >>> distress, sense of self, including friendship, companionship and power, >>> psychic capacity. >>> >>> Cohen’s point is that we are all sensory creatures and that our human >>> senses are a large part of who we are. Our senses are given to us not to be >>> indulged, to be playthings or for decoration, but are mechanisms originally >>> designed to help us survive and thrive in the natural world. Because life >>> in the “developed” world is now so confined (Americans for instance spend >>> an average of 95% of their lives indoors) our senses have little to do and >>> consequently become either atrophied or over-sensitive, which in turn leads >>> to many of the common ailments of today’s existence, such as stress, >>> anxiety and depression. >>> >>> You've probably been taught that humans have five senses: taste, >>> smell, vision, hearing, and touch. However, an under-appreciated "sixth >>> sense," called proprioception, allows us to keep track of where our >>> body parts are in space >>> >>> The senses that protect the individual from external and internal >>> perturbations through a contact delivery of information to the brain >>> include the five senses, the proprioception, and the seventh sense—immune >>> input. The peripheral immune cells detect microorganisms and deliver the >>> information to the brain. (7th sense) >>> >>> Interoception is a sense that provides information about the >>> internal condition of our body, how our body is feeling on the inside. >>> Interoception allows us to experience many body sensations such as a >>> growling stomach, a dry mouth, tense muscles or a racing heart. (8th >>> sense) >>> >>> VEDIC 11 senses: Mind was called by Indian psychologists the >>> eleventh and ranks as the supreme sense. In the ancient arrangement of the >>> senses, five of knowledge and five of action, it was the sixth of the >>> organs of knowledge and at the same time the sixth of the organs of action. >>> It is a common-place of psychology that the effective functioning of the >>> senses of knowledge is inoperative without the assistance of the mind; the >>> eye may see, the ear may hear, all the senses may act, but if the mind pays >>> no attention, the man has not heard, seen, felt, touched or tasted. >>> Similarly, according to psychology, the organs of action act only by the >>> force of the mind operating as will or, physiologically, by the reactive >>> nervous force from the brain which must be according to materialistic >>> notions the true self and essence of all will. In any case, the senses or >>> all senses, if there are other than the ten,—according to a text in the >>> Upanishad there should be at least fourteen, seven and seven,—all senses >>> appear to be only organisations, functioning, instrumentations of the >>> mind-consciousness, devices which it has formed in the course of its >>> evolution in living Matter. >>> >>> Section 240, Mokshadharma Parva, Santi Parva, The >>> Mahabharata] SECTION CCXL >>> >>> "Vyasa said, ….The uniting together of Intellect and Mind, and all the >>> Senses, and the all-pervading Soul is said to be Knowledge of the foremost >>> kind. That Knowledge should be acquired (through the preceptor's aid) by >>> one that is of a tranquil disposition, that has mastered his senses, that >>> is capable (by meditation) of turning his gaze on the Soul, that takes a >>> pleasure in (such) meditation, that is endued with intelligence and pure in >>> acts. One should seek to acquire this Knowledge by abandoning those five >>> impediments of Yoga which are known to the wise, viz., desire, wrath, >>> cupidity, fear, and sleep. Wrath is conquered by tranquillity of >>> disposition. Desire is conquered by giving up all purposes. By >>> reflecting with the aid of the understanding upon topics worthy of >>> reflection, 1 one endued with patience succeeds in abandoning sleep. By >>> steady endurance one should restrain one's organs of generation and the >>> stomach (from unworthy or sinful indulgence). One should protect one's >>> hands and feet by (using) one's eyes. One should protect one's eyes and >>> ears by the aid of one's mind, one's mind and speech by one's acts. One >>> should avoid fear by heedfulness, and pride by waiting upon the wise. >>> Subduing procrastination, one should, by these means, subdue these >>> impediments of Yoga >>> >>> 2 Brahma became the eye, in the form of this mobile and immobile >>> universe, of all entities that took birth. >>> >>> 3 Meditation, study, gift, truth, modesty, simplicity, forgiveness, >>> purity of body, purity of conduct, subjugation of the senses, these enhance >>> one's energy, which (when enhanced) destroys one's sins. By behaving >>> equally towards all creatures and by living in contentment upon what is >>> acquired easily and without effort, one attains to the fruition of all >>> one's objects and succeeds in obtaining knowledge. >>> >>> 4 Firmly uniting the senses and the mind (having drawn them away from >>> all external objects) with gaze fixed inwards, one should, in the still >>> hours of evening or in those before dawn, place one's mind upon the >>> knowledge. If even one of the five senses of a human being be kept >>> unrestrained, all his wisdom may be seen to escape through it like >>> water through an unstopped hole at the bottom of a leather bag. Indeed, >>> having restrained the five senses, the Yati should fix them on the mind. >>> *When >>> these the mind for their sixth become concentrated* in the knowledge, >>> and thus concentrated remain steady and untroubled, thene everything >>> then appears in it and it appears in everything in consequence of its >>> infinitude. >>> >>> He that has subdued his mind beholds in his own self, by the aid of his >>> own knowledge the Uncreate, Ancient, Undeteriorating, and Eternal >>> Brahma--That, viz., which cannot be attained to except by fixed >>> senses,--That which is subtler than the most subtle, and grosser than the >>> most gross, and which is Emancipation's self.' (BG in 13-6&7 speaks the >>> same) >>> >>> Upanishadic sages thousands of years ago understood the >>> secrets of neuroscience, but going beyond the physical body and mind to >>> higher levels of consciousness. >>> >>> For example, Agni or fire is speech, Vayu or air is Prana, Surya or the >>> Sun is perception, space or the directions is hearing, and the Moon (Soma) >>> is the mind in its contemplative nature. Aitareya Upanishad – Upanishadic >>> View of Evolution;the Aitareya Upanishad (AU I.1) describes the universe as >>> a manifestation of the Self (Atman) through its power of vision. This means >>> that everything manifested is a form of the Self or self-awareness.It then >>> describes the creation of the worlds (lokas) as five, the heavenly waters, >>> heaven, atmosphere, earth, and the waters beneath the earth. The waters >>> symbolize the vibratory waves of consciousness-space in which all the >>> worlds are held.It then describes the guardians of the worlds starting with >>> the Purusha, indicating that the entire universe has the form of the human >>> being or human body and exists in the brain. The other world guardians >>> (loka palas) consist of Agni, from the mouth and speech of the Purusha; >>> Vayu from the nose and the prana of the Purusha; the Sun from the eyes and >>> vision of the Purusha; the directions of space from the ears and hearing of >>> the Purusha; plants and trees from the skin and hairs of the Purusha; the >>> Moon from the mind and the heart of the Purusha,; death from the navel and >>> apana vayu of the Purusha; and the waters from the sex organ and the seed >>> of the Purusha. The Taittiriya Upanishad I.13-14 has an important teaching >>> in this regard: “He is that space within the heart, in that is the Purusha >>> whose nature is mind (Mano maya Purusha), who is immortal and golden. >>> Within the palate, which hangs down like the breast, that is the womb of >>> Indra (Indra yoni). Where the end of the hair parts, having opened the top >>> of the skull, he dwells as Agni in the Earth, as Vayu in the Atmosphere, as >>> the Sun in Heaven, as the Vast in Brahman. >>> >>> Astrology speaks altogether in terms of space movements of a certain >>> planets connecting the SOMA THE MIND. 1.Sight- Your eyesight is ruled by >>> planet Mars (Agni tattwa). When mars is under affliction or weakly placed, >>> it gives problems with sight 2. Hearing- Our hearing power is influenced by >>> Jupiter (Akash tattwa). The weak position of Jupiter results in hearing >>> problems. Also, we should note that Jupiter get debilitated in the >>> nakshatra of Shravana. 3.Touch-Saturn (Vayu tattwa) rules touch and thus, >>> it influences our connectivity with the people too. When Saturn is >>> negatively influenced or under severe affliction, one may feel >>> disconnected. 4.Taste- Venus rules over taste element in life. You know >>> that Venus is jala element. Venus controls all type of relationships and >>> thus, its positive placements can bring lot of happiness and prosperity. >>> 5.Smell – Mercury rules over our smell. In astrology, mercury belongs to >>> Prithvi tattwa. >>> >>> Finally, about the INTUTION AND ASTROLOGY Astrology assessed by >>> texts and book knowhow, may not lead to the accurate results; that is why >>> ancient astrologers had Puja and punaskaras with the meditations and >>> Gayathri to keep the mind the access to analyse unknowing to themselves, >>> which is THE INTUTIONS. So, all aspects analysed in the astrology is >>> sanctified only by the utterances through the INTUTIONS. Intuitions are not >>> mere gut feelings as west describes; it is from the mind; the power of a >>> yogi; siddha purushas; and energy of the brain waves to assess. For >>> example: Sri Krishnamurthi writes in his book Krishnamurthy patthathi a >>> system of Ayana he evolved, as: One day a lady crying rushed in his >>> chamber, begging Krishnamurthy, to say bout her union with her husband; at >>> the same time, as it used to be then, from the back side of the well, his >>> wife was shouting the bucket went inside the water cutting down the rope; >>> his shishyas said, murmuring,: that is all; saguna is not good; rope is >>> cut”. But K calculated and found the date of something to her question; no >>> there are 2 options; one rope is cut so she loses the thali; but K got the >>> intuition to after the analysis of the planets at that time and the saguna, >>> and said to her that she will unite with her husband on such and such a >>> date; and when the shishyas were surprised, he told them, rope cut is >>> natural as it became older; but why a bucket shall reach the water her >>> companion? Intuition is not dice game; hit and run; but analysis; strategic >>> analysis now the management termed as. Astrology is wedded to intuition and >>> discipline to practice. Intuition is a cult. MESHA, Mithuna, Kataka and >>> Meena rasis are generally endowed with the intuition. Jupiter, Bhudan, Moon >>> and Ketu play a role in intuition. As the moon is the main component and >>> Kataka rasi is highly connected to the moon, they are the best as >>> astrologers. Ketu is another planet of intuition; and Ketu is 12 enhances >>> the quality of a Yogi, so moon and ketu in 12th place is a person with >>> intuition. Jupiter must be well placed for any astro. >>> >>> K RAJARAM IRS 17 3 24 >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: 'venkat giri' via iyer123 <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 04:43 >>> Subject: [iyer123] SIXTH SENSE >>> To: Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>, Iyer < >>> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Gopala Krishnan <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> *Respected Sir/s,* >>> >>> *SUBJECT: SIXTH SENSE* >>> >>> *I**f someone says he has **a sixth sense**, means that he seems to >>> have **a natural ability to know about things before others or to know >>> things that other people do not know.* >>> >>> *INTUTIVE POWER,* *a power of perception beyond the five senses.* >>> >>> * An ability to know something without using the ordinary five >>> senses of sight, hearing, smell, touch, and taste: My sixth sense told me >>> something awful was going to happen.* >>> >>> *How to activate the sixth sense* >>> >>> *1. **Regular meditation. This is the easiest way to work on >>> the sixth sense. ...* >>> >>> *2. **Practise Trataka**. This is another easy way to awaken >>> sixth sense. ...* >>> >>> *3. **Connect with Nature. ...* >>> >>> *4. **Keep a record of dreams. ...* >>> >>> *5. **Perform Pranayama. ...* >>> >>> *6. **Feel The Vibes(emotional feeings)* >>> >>> *It is a cumulative power of all our other senses - sight, sound, taste, >>> touch, smell - that culminates in a stronger sense of inner knowing. Some >>> people may have a natural ability to use their sixth sense, while others >>> may need to develop it through practice and training.* >>> >>> *INTUTION**, also known as a gut feeling*, *instinct **, sixth sense,or >>> second senseplays ; a significant role in navigating life's challenges and >>> musterious paths. According to Vedic astrology, some zodiac signs are more >>> attuned to their intuition power than others making them adept at sensing >>> and understanding the unseen.* >>> >>> *In today's generation, this feeling is often referred to as a * >>> *'vibe.**' **Individuals commonly have a gut feeling about something or >>> someone, which can surprisingly turn out to be accurate.** This >>> phenomenon is known as intuition, defined as the ability to sense or know >>> things without conscious reasoning.* >>> >>> * 1. **CANCER**- Individuals born under the Cancer sign are natural >>> nurturers, deeply connected to their emotions and feelings due to their >>> governance by the Moon. **Their strong and instinctive intuition allows >>> them to take care of themselves and their loved ones. **Cancers can >>> perceive the moods, feelings, and needs of others without explicit >>> communication, providing warmth, security, and comfort.* *Their >>> intuitive abilities often manifest in creating a cozy and harmonious home >>> environment, fostering strong and lasting bonds with family and friends.* >>> >>> *2. SCORPIO - Highly emotional individuals, Scorpios value forming deep >>> relationships **based on trust and seek emotional intimacy. **Ruled by * >>> *Pluto**, **they possess intense and transformational intuition. **Known >>> for their sharp-witted intuition**, Scorpios can **sense hidden >>> objectives, feelings, and intentions, **making them less susceptible to >>> deception. **They use their intuition as a protective mechanism for >>> themselves and their loved ones.* >>> >>> *3. PISCES – Pisceans are dreamers and visionaries of the zodiac, with a >>> profound ability to connect deeply with the artistic tapestry of nature. >>> **Highly >>> spiritual and intuitive, they use their intuition to align with their >>> life's purpose and manifest their dreams and desires**. Their rich and >>> vivid imagination aids in connecting with subtle energies and vibrations of >>> the universe, allowing them to **receive messages and guidance from >>> their soul, spirit guides, or angels**.* >>> >>> *4. SAGITTARIUS - **Ruled by Jupiter, the planet of expansion, >>> Sagittarians have a deep desire for freedom and exploration. **They are >>> always curious and optimistic about discovering new and exciting things**. >>> **Sagittarians use their intuition power to sense opportunities, >>> possibilities, and potentials in any situation.** Employing their >>> intuition, they explore new cultures, philosophies, and experiences, >>> broadening their horizons continually.* >>> >>> *Regards* >>> >>> *V.Sridharan* >>> >>> *Trichy* >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "iyer123" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/94431905.3225431.1710582203883%40mail.yahoo.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/94431905.3225431.1710582203883%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> -- >>> On Facebook, please join >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust >>> >>> We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join >>> >>> Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup >>> >>> Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust >>> >>> Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: >>> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "KeralaIyers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZoro6GtQTrCpPhkfp-oRoon_E9V8z5wZ%2BPL2ZNdeMrSGxQ%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZoro6GtQTrCpPhkfp-oRoon_E9V8z5wZ%2BPL2ZNdeMrSGxQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "iyer123" group. 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