On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 02:33:34AM +0000, Klemens Nanni wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 09:42:47AM -0400, Bryan Steele wrote:
> > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 09:17:00AM -0400, Okan Demirmen wrote:
> > > On Mon 2023.05.15 at 10:41 +0200, Matthieu Herrb wrote:
> > > > On Mon, May 15, 2023 at 06:26:41AM +0000, Klemens Nanni wrote:
> > > > > Both fvwm(1) and twm(1) have a restart menu that contains other window
> > > > > managers by default, which is useful if you want to switch around
> > > > > without restarting X and/or custom window manager config.
> > > > > 
> > > > > cwm(1) only offers to restart into itself by deafult.
> > > > > Add the other two we ship by default so users can round trip between
> > > > > them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Feedback? OK?
> > > > 
> > > > Last year I mentionned that I think we should retire twm. It's really
> > > > too old and missing support for the modern window managers hints.
> > > > 
> > > > People still using it should switch to cwm or maybe ctwm from ports
> > > > (to keep the same configurarion system), or someone should step up to
> > > > maintain it and enhance it with exwmh support. (but this is somehow
> > > > just wasting time imho).
> 
> I don't know anything about twm, so I'll leave that to others.
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Otherwise ok to add this and fix the other WM menus for other window
> > > > managers (those parts of the configs are already local changes in
> > > > Xenocara)
> > > 
> > > I might argue the opposite, to remove cwm from fvwm and twm restart 
> > > menus, if
> > > this inconsistency is a real concern. The entries in fvwm/twm are in the
> > > (shipped) example config files, where-as below it is, well, there for 
> > > good with
> > > no user choice. Heck, how often to do people even use this restart wm to
> > > another WM outside of playing around? Most window managers handle restarts
> > > differently, regardless of what ICCCM/EWMH says) and even then, crossing 
> > > window
> > > managers like this introduces inconsistencies. It's fine for playing 
> > > around I
> > > suppose, but is it really a demanded "workflow"?
> 
> It is convenient for testing because you keep all your windows and don't
> have to login out and in again;  that's about it for me.

I have to side with kn on this.

Actually, it would be cool if ywe could register more wm and switch on runtimes
(a bit like @shell ?)

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