> From: David Gwynne <da...@gwynne.id.au>
> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 12:58:35 +1000
> 
> > On 16 Feb 2021, at 06:01, Mark Kettenis <mark.kette...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > 
> >> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 01:19:29 +0100
> >> From: Patrick Wildt <patr...@blueri.se>
> >> 
> >> Am Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:55:56AM +1000 schrieb David Gwynne:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>>> On 15 Feb 2021, at 07:54, Mark Kettenis <mark.kette...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> One of the aspects of device access is whether CPU writes to a device
> >>>> are posted or non-posted.  For non-posted writes, the CPU will wait
> >>>> for the device to acknowledge that the write has performed.  If the
> >>>> device sits on a bus far away, this can take a while and slow things
> >>>> down.  The alternative are so-called posted writes.  The CPU will
> >>>> "post" the write to the bus without waiting for an acknowledgement.
> >>>> The CPU may receive an asynchronous notifaction at a later time that
> >>>> the write didn't succeed or a failing write may be dropped without
> >>>> further botification.  On most architectures whether writes are posted
> >>>> or not is a property of the bus between the CPU and the device.  For
> >>>> example, memory mapped I/O on the PCI bus is always posted and there
> >>>> is nothing the CPU can do about it.
> >>>> 
> >>>> On the ARM architecture though we can indicate to the CPU whether
> >>>> writes to a certain address range should be posted or not.  This is
> >>>> done by specifying certain memory attributes in the mappings used by
> >>>> the MMU.  The OpenBSD kernel always specifies device access as
> >>>> non-posted.  On all ARM implementations we have seen so far this seems
> >>>> to work even for writes to devices connected to a PCIe bus.  There
> >>>> might be a penalty though, so I need to investigate this a bit
> >>>> further.
> >>>> 
> >>>> However, on Apple's M1 SoC, this isn't the case.  Non-posted writes to
> >>>> a bus that uses posted writes fail and vice-versa.  So in order to use
> >>>> the PCIe bus on these SoCs we need to specify the right memory
> >>>> attributes.  The diff below implements this by introducing a new
> >>>> BUS_SPACE_MAP_POSTED flag.  At this point I don't expect generic
> >>>> drivers to use this flag yet.  So there is no need to add it for other
> >>>> architectures.  But I don't rule out we may have to use this flag in
> >>>> sys/dev/fdt sometime in the future.  That is why I posted this to a
> >>>> wider audience.
> >>> 
> >>> You don't want to (ab)use one of the existing flags? If I squint
> >>> and read kind of quickly I could imagine this is kind of like
> >>> write combining, like what BUS_SPACE_MAP_PREFETCHABLE can do on
> >>> pci busses.
> >> 
> >> BUS_SPACE_MAP_PREFETCHABLE should be "normal uncached" memory on arm64,
> >> which is different to device memory.  That said I have a device where
> >> amdgpu(4) doesn't behave if it's "normal uncached", and I'm not sure if
> >> it's the HW's fault or if there's some barrier missing.  Still, I would
> >> not use BUS_SPACE_MAP_PREFETCHABLE for nGnRnE vs nGnRE.
> >> 
> >> More info on device vs normal is here:
> >> 
> >> https://developer.arm.com/documentation/102376/0100/Normal-memory
> >> https://developer.arm.com/documentation/102376/0100/Device-memory
> > 
> > BUS_SPACE_MAP_PREFETCHABLE is used for parts of the address space that
> > are "side-effect free".  That means that multiple writes may be
> > combined into one and reads might actually fetch more data than you
> > asked for.  Typical use is a frambuffer or some other device memory
> > that is accessed across a PCI bus.  In most cases that is not what you
> > want to access device registers where a read or a write triggers some
> > action in the device.
> > 
> > Posted writes still happen as issued (and in principle in the same
> > order as issued).  But they may complete at a later time after the CPU
> > has executed many more instructions.  The traditional way to make sure
> > posted writes on a PCI bus have completed is to read something back
> > from the device.
> > 
> > So as Patrick said, it's a different thing.
> > 
> >>> If this does leak into fdt, would it just be a nop on other archs
> >>> that use those drivers?
> > 
> > Most likely, yes.  All other architectures that I know have don't
> > require the CPU to do someting different for posted and non-posted
> > writes.
> 
> fair enough. maybe whether the bus is posted or not could be part of
> the fdt/acpi info, rather than something hardcoded in drivers?

There is a proposal to do just that.  But it means bus drivers still
need to worry about this and I still need a flag.

In the current implementation (that I didn't include) the PCIe host
bridge driver for the Apple M1 will take care of setting the flag in
its bus_space_map() implementation.  I don't expect "normal" device
drivers to have to care about this.

> anyway, i'm ok with this as is so go for it.

Thanks

Mark

> >>>> 
> >>>> ok?
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/arm64/locore.S
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/arm64/locore.S,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.32
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.32 locore.S
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/arm64/locore.S    19 Oct 2020 17:57:40 -0000      1.32
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/arm64/locore.S    14 Feb 2021 21:28:26 -0000
> >>>> @@ -233,9 +233,10 @@ switch_mmu_kernel:
> >>>> mair:
> >>>>  /* Device | Normal (no cache, write-back, write-through) */
> >>>>  .quad   MAIR_ATTR(0x00, 0) |    \
> >>>> -                MAIR_ATTR(0x44, 1) |    \
> >>>> -                MAIR_ATTR(0xff, 2) |    \
> >>>> -                MAIR_ATTR(0x88, 3)
> >>>> +                MAIR_ATTR(0x04, 1) |    \
> >>>> +                MAIR_ATTR(0x44, 2) |    \
> >>>> +                MAIR_ATTR(0xff, 3) |    \
> >>>> +                MAIR_ATTR(0x88, 4)
> >>>> tcr:
> >>>>  .quad (TCR_T1SZ(64 - VIRT_BITS) | TCR_T0SZ(64 - 48) | \
> >>>>      TCR_AS | TCR_TG1_4K | TCR_CACHE_ATTRS | TCR_SMP_ATTRS)
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/arm64/locore0.S
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/arm64/locore0.S,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.5
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.5 locore0.S
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/arm64/locore0.S   28 May 2019 20:32:30 -0000      1.5
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/arm64/locore0.S   14 Feb 2021 21:28:26 -0000
> >>>> @@ -34,8 +34,8 @@
> >>>> #include <machine/pte.h>
> >>>> 
> >>>> #define  DEVICE_MEM      0
> >>>> -#define NORMAL_UNCACHED 1
> >>>> -#define NORMAL_MEM      2
> >>>> +#define NORMAL_UNCACHED 2
> >>>> +#define NORMAL_MEM      3
> >>>> 
> >>>> /*
> >>>> * We assume:
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/arm64/machdep.c
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/arm64/machdep.c,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.57
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.57 machdep.c
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/arm64/machdep.c   11 Feb 2021 23:55:48 -0000      1.57
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/arm64/machdep.c   14 Feb 2021 21:28:27 -0000
> >>>> @@ -1188,7 +1188,7 @@ pmap_bootstrap_bs_map(bus_space_tag_t t,
> >>>> 
> >>>>  for (pa = startpa; pa < endpa; pa += PAGE_SIZE, va += PAGE_SIZE)
> >>>>          pmap_kenter_cache(va, pa, PROT_READ | PROT_WRITE,
> >>>> -                    PMAP_CACHE_DEV);
> >>>> +                    PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE);
> >>>> 
> >>>>  virtual_avail = va;
> >>>> 
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/arm64/pmap.c
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/arm64/pmap.c,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.70
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.70 pmap.c
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/arm64/pmap.c      25 Jan 2021 19:37:17 -0000      1.70
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/arm64/pmap.c      14 Feb 2021 21:28:28 -0000
> >>>> @@ -472,7 +472,7 @@ pmap_enter(pmap_t pm, vaddr_t va, paddr_
> >>>>  if (pa & PMAP_NOCACHE)
> >>>>          cache = PMAP_CACHE_CI;
> >>>>  if (pa & PMAP_DEVICE)
> >>>> -                cache = PMAP_CACHE_DEV;
> >>>> +                cache = PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE;
> >>>>  pg = PHYS_TO_VM_PAGE(pa);
> >>>> 
> >>>>  pmap_lock(pm);
> >>>> @@ -648,7 +648,7 @@ _pmap_kenter_pa(vaddr_t va, paddr_t pa, 
> >>>>  pmap_pte_insert(pted);
> >>>> 
> >>>>  ttlb_flush(pm, va & ~PAGE_MASK);
> >>>> -        if (cache == PMAP_CACHE_CI || cache == PMAP_CACHE_DEV)
> >>>> +        if (cache == PMAP_CACHE_CI || cache == PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE)
> >>>>          cpu_idcache_wbinv_range(va & ~PAGE_MASK, PAGE_SIZE);
> >>>> }
> >>>> 
> >>>> @@ -735,7 +735,9 @@ pmap_fill_pte(pmap_t pm, vaddr_t va, pad
> >>>>          break;
> >>>>  case PMAP_CACHE_CI:
> >>>>          break;
> >>>> -        case PMAP_CACHE_DEV:
> >>>> +        case PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE:
> >>>> +                break;
> >>>> +        case PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRE:
> >>>>          break;
> >>>>  default:
> >>>>          panic("pmap_fill_pte:invalid cache mode");
> >>>> @@ -1637,8 +1639,12 @@ pmap_pte_update(struct pte_desc *pted, u
> >>>>          attr |= ATTR_IDX(PTE_ATTR_CI);
> >>>>          attr |= ATTR_SH(SH_INNER);
> >>>>          break;
> >>>> -        case PMAP_CACHE_DEV:
> >>>> -                attr |= ATTR_IDX(PTE_ATTR_DEV);
> >>>> +        case PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE:
> >>>> +                attr |= ATTR_IDX(PTE_ATTR_DEV_NGNRNE);
> >>>> +                attr |= ATTR_SH(SH_INNER);
> >>>> +                break;
> >>>> +        case PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRE:
> >>>> +                attr |= ATTR_IDX(PTE_ATTR_DEV_NGNRE);
> >>>>          attr |= ATTR_SH(SH_INNER);
> >>>>          break;
> >>>>  default:
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/dev/arm64_bus_space.c
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/dev/arm64_bus_space.c,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.7
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.7 arm64_bus_space.c
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/dev/arm64_bus_space.c     20 Aug 2018 19:38:07 -0000      
> >>>> 1.7
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/dev/arm64_bus_space.c     14 Feb 2021 21:28:29 -0000
> >>>> @@ -191,8 +191,12 @@ generic_space_map(bus_space_tag_t t, bus
> >>>> {
> >>>>  u_long startpa, endpa, pa;
> >>>>  vaddr_t va;
> >>>> -        int cache = flags & BUS_SPACE_MAP_CACHEABLE ?
> >>>> -            PMAP_CACHE_WB : PMAP_CACHE_DEV;
> >>>> +        int cache = PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +        if (flags & BUS_SPACE_MAP_CACHEABLE)
> >>>> +                cache = PMAP_CACHE_WB;
> >>>> +        if (flags & BUS_SPACE_MAP_POSTED)
> >>>> +                cache = PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRE;
> >>>> 
> >>>>  startpa = trunc_page(offs);
> >>>>  endpa = round_page(offs + size);
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/include/bus.h
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/include/bus.h,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.7
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.7 bus.h
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/include/bus.h     13 Apr 2020 21:34:54 -0000      1.7
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/include/bus.h     14 Feb 2021 21:28:29 -0000
> >>>> @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ struct bus_space {
> >>>>    (*(t)->_space_subregion)((t), (h), (o), (s), (p))
> >>>> 
> >>>> #define BUS_SPACE_MAP_CACHEABLE          0x01
> >>>> -#define BUS_SPACE_MAP_KSEG0             0x02
> >>>> +#define BUS_SPACE_MAP_POSTED            0x02
> >>>> #define BUS_SPACE_MAP_LINEAR             0x04
> >>>> #define BUS_SPACE_MAP_PREFETCHABLE       0x08
> >>>> 
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/include/pmap.h
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/include/pmap.h,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.14
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.14 pmap.h
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/include/pmap.h    21 Oct 2020 21:53:47 -0000      1.14
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/include/pmap.h    14 Feb 2021 21:28:29 -0000
> >>>> @@ -42,7 +42,8 @@
> >>>> #define PMAP_CACHE_CI            (PMAP_MD0)              /* cache 
> >>>> inhibit */
> >>>> #define PMAP_CACHE_WT            (PMAP_MD1)              /* writethru */
> >>>> #define PMAP_CACHE_WB            (PMAP_MD1|PMAP_MD0)     /* writeback */
> >>>> -#define PMAP_CACHE_DEV          (PMAP_MD2)              /* device 
> >>>> mapping */
> >>>> +#define PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRNE   (PMAP_MD2)              /* device 
> >>>> nGnRnE */
> >>>> +#define PMAP_CACHE_DEV_NGNRE    (PMAP_MD2|PMAP_MD0)     /* device nGnRE 
> >>>> */
> >>>> #define PMAP_CACHE_BITS          (PMAP_MD0|PMAP_MD1|PMAP_MD2)    
> >>>> 
> >>>> #define PTED_VA_MANAGED_M        (PMAP_MD3)
> >>>> Index: arch/arm64/include/pte.h
> >>>> ===================================================================
> >>>> RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/arch/arm64/include/pte.h,v
> >>>> retrieving revision 1.5
> >>>> diff -u -p -r1.5 pte.h
> >>>> --- arch/arm64/include/pte.h     13 Apr 2017 23:29:02 -0000      1.5
> >>>> +++ arch/arm64/include/pte.h     14 Feb 2021 21:28:30 -0000
> >>>> @@ -53,11 +53,11 @@
> >>>> #define          ATTR_IDX(x)     ((x) << 2)
> >>>> #define          ATTR_IDX_MASK   (7 << 2)
> >>>> 
> >>>> -#define         PTE_ATTR_DEV    0
> >>>> -#define         PTE_ATTR_CI     1
> >>>> -#define         PTE_ATTR_WB     2
> >>>> -#define         PTE_ATTR_WT     3
> >>>> -
> >>>> +#define         PTE_ATTR_DEV_NGNRNE     0
> >>>> +#define         PTE_ATTR_DEV_NGNRE      1
> >>>> +#define         PTE_ATTR_CI             2
> >>>> +#define         PTE_ATTR_WB             3
> >>>> +#define         PTE_ATTR_WT             4
> >>>> 
> >>>> #define          SH_INNER        3
> >>>> #define          SH_OUTER        2
> 
> 

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