Honestly folks, I'm sick of the attitude of "The future is nigh, the
mystic portal awaits! V6 is coming!" as an excuse for
we *MUST* change things related to this.

We've been hearing the mystic portal awaits for 15 years - and yet
MANY of us in MANY parts of the world still can not
get reasonable v6 connectivity - or it's is substantially worse than
v4 for what we normally do.  It's not our fault,
our providers are useless.

I have no problem with having changes to make V6 more usable. but
here's what I have a problem with.

1) Here is wonderful V6 diff - many standards idiots of the same type
that designed V6 say this is good. Can you
show me a down side?

My answer to this is simple.  No.. We've been bit before. You want me
to pay attention to this discussion and encourage
that a diff goes in do this instead:

2) Here is a diff that makes V6 better - I'm not talking to you about
the standards bodies related to V6 because they are all
ivory tower idiots, but it *does* make things better because I've
tested it under *these* v6 scenarios and hit helps *AND* I tested it
under the default and these normal scenarios WITH ONLY V4, and NOTHING
SLOWED DOWN OR GOT FUCKED UP.

Having now experienced more than enough "show me a down side" V6 diffs
in the tree over the years, I do not want to
"show a down side" - PROVE TO ME THERE ISN'T ONE, or go away.







On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas
<j...@wxcvbn.org> wrote:
> Paul de Weerd <we...@weirdnet.nl> writes:
>
>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 05:35:13PM +0200, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas wrote:
>> | > If you're running on a host without IPv6, why would you want
>> | > getaddrinfo() to return any IPv6 results? What good would it do to you?
>> |
>> | What's a regular OpenBSD host with no IPv6?  I'd assume that it is
>> | a host that can perform IPv6 connections to ::1 / localhost and reach
>> | its neighbors through link-local addresses.
>>
>> Why would you expect to be able to reach your neighbors through
>> link-local addresses if you have "no IPv6" (which I take to mean 'no
>> *configured* IPv6', please correct me if I'm wrong here)?
>
> I don't make a big difference between automatically or "manually"
> configured addresses.  They're here and supposed to be usable for
> whatever purpose, limited only by their intrinsic limitations.
>
>> I believe your expectation here is wrong (although it is the current
>> state of IPv6 on OpenBSD).  Can you explain why you disagree?
>
> Not really, I'm puzzled by your question.  It works and has always
> worked but I shouldn't expect them to work...
>
>> (sorry to hijack the thread, your remark piqued my interest)
>>
>> Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd
>
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