On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:17 -0700, "Bob Beck" <b...@ualberta.ca> wrote: > >> > >> It *IS* off by default. I have yet to see an OpenBSD machine that I > >> can install that > >> will come up with httpd turned on. > > > > We are not talking about the same thing. I understand that httpd is off > > by default. The *option* is on by default in the config file. > > > > Yes we are, while we are at it we can ship an http.conf file that wil > only listen on port 8000 on localhost when the daemon comes up as > well, and that would be super obscure as well, and it would only read > index files ending in .HolyFuck, and we'd ship a mime types > where HolyFuck was html, so people accidentally didn't put html files > in there without changing the mime types, etc etc. etc.
Wow... the definition of "hyperbole". > We could make it where a user would have to change 15 files in order > to make the thing come up listening on port 80 and just serve > index.html. Apache comes up and works fine with Indexes off (for me at least). > And would you have improved anyone's security? absolutely not - you'd > have made a turdshining change that makes it more difficult to use, > makes people have to change more stuff to make it useful when they are > *not* being stupid. > > You'd have also decresed security - why? You'd have made it where more > people simply install a full featured and full blown default > configuration of apache2 or worse on the system rather than make those > 15 little tweaks to > turn everything on. > > Off is off. don't make it where you have to turn 80000 knobs to turn > something on. because you wanted it "more off". Turn SSHv1 back on please why do you force me to twist that knob! That's some hyperbole of my own ;) Alright, I give up. Turning the option off manually works for me. I don't want or need it and I assumed other OpenBSD folks would feel the same. Brad