On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:17 -0700, "Bob Beck" <b...@ualberta.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> It *IS* off by default.  I have yet to see an OpenBSD machine that I
> >> can install that
> >> will come up with httpd turned on.
> >
> > We are not talking about the same thing. I understand that httpd is off
> > by default. The *option* is on by default in the config file.
> >
>
> Yes we are, while we are at it we can ship an http.conf file that wil
> only listen on port 8000 on localhost when the daemon comes up as
> well, and that would be super obscure as well, and it would only read
> index files ending in .HolyFuck, and we'd ship a mime types
> where HolyFuck was html, so people accidentally didn't put html files
> in there without changing the mime types, etc etc. etc.

Wow... the definition of "hyperbole".

> We could make it where a user would have to change 15 files in order
> to make the thing come up listening on port 80 and just serve
> index.html.

Apache comes up and works fine with Indexes off (for me at least).

> And would you have improved anyone's security? absolutely not - you'd
> have made a turdshining change that makes it more difficult to use,
> makes people have to change more stuff to make it useful when they are
> *not* being stupid.
>
> You'd have also decresed security - why? You'd have made it where more
> people simply install a full featured and full blown default
> configuration of apache2 or worse on the system rather than make those
> 15 little tweaks to
> turn everything on.
>
> Off is off. don't make it where you have to turn 80000 knobs to turn
> something on. because you wanted it "more off".

Turn SSHv1 back on please why do you force me to twist that knob! That's
some hyperbole of my own ;) Alright, I give up. Turning the option off
manually works for me. I don't want or need it and I assumed other
OpenBSD folks would feel the same.

Brad

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