On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Erik de Jong <erikdej...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've just noticed that this was not sent to the mailing list...
>
> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Guy Harris <g...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Erik de Jong <erikdej...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I would like to request a link layer header type for encapsulation of
>> LoRa
>> > packets. It will be used to encapsulate raw packets as logged directly
>> from
>> > the air. As usage of this link layer header type will be similar to the
>> > radiotap header, I've picked the name LoRaTap for the encapsulation.
>> >
>> > LoRa is a protocol for IoT, it's a proprietary protocol by Semtech.
>> Specs
>> > can be found at http://www.semtech.com/wireles
>> s-rf/rf-transceivers/sx1272/
>>
>> Specs can be found there, but I couldn't find many specs relevant to
>> assigning a link-layer header type; all I saw there was a bunch of
>> PHY-layer stuff, and that doesn't show up in captures - it's typically the
>> MAC layer.
>>
>> A *useful* spec can be found at
>>
>>         https://www.lora-alliance.org/portals/0/specs/LoRaWAN%20Spec
>> ification%201R0.pdf
>>
>> Presumably the packets in the capture will look like what's specified in
>> section 4, with the first octet being the 1-octet MAC header field (bit 0
>> is the low-order bit of an octet and bit 7 is the high-order bit of an
>> octet, right?), followed by the MAC payload, possibly followed by the
>> Message Integrity Code - will packets have the MIC or not?
>>
>
> You are correct, the packets encapsulated by the LoRaTap format will be
> those from the PHYPayload as listed in section 4. This document details the
> LoRaWan protocol which is something that can run on top of the LoRa radio
> phy layer. The LoRaTap could be of the LoRaWAN protocol or anything else
> one might want to send over LoRa radios.
>
> > My initial idea for the encapsulation header can be found at
>> > https://github.com/eriknl/LoRaTap
>>
>> So that header will be at the beginning of the packet, followed
>> immediately by the packet data, beginning with the MAC header field?
>>
>
> Correct, see above.
>
>>
>> Are the multi-byte fields in that header big-endian, little-endian, or
>> host-endian?
>>
> I am leaning towards host-endianess, I think pcap is able to distinguish
> host-endianess but I am not sure if other formats work with that. I'll need
> to do some further research.
>
I've decided to stick with big-endianess.

>
>> What are the units of the RSSIs?  dBm?  What is the difference between
>> "packet RSSI" and "receiver RSSI"?
>>
>
>> Is the signal/noise ration given as a percentage, some form of
>> floating-point value, or something else?
>>
>> What are the units of the frequency field?  Hz?  KHz?  Something else?
>>
>> What is the "SF"?  One of the Semtech specs that might be relevant here is
>>
>>         http://www.semtech.com/images/datasheet/an1200.22.pdf
>>
>> which says "SF = spreading factor (7..12)" - is that the "SF"?
>>
>> I'll work on documenting those parameters. The header I published
> yesterday is just to get an initial idea.
>
>> Why is there a length field?  A pcap or pcapng file already *has* a
>> packet length, which would be the sum of the length of the LoRa metadata
>> header (16, in the example on your site) plus 1 for the MAC header plus the
>> length of the MAC payload plus 4 if the MIC is included.  Wouldn't that
>> make a packet length field redundant?
>
> Good point, I think it might be appropriate to remove it.
>
> Please see the github link for an updated version with explanation and
units for each field.
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