On 05.06.2015 16:12, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 05.06.2015 15:41, poma wrote:
>> On 05.06.2015 15:29, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>> On 05.06.2015 15:28, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Harald Hoyer <[email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     On 05.06.2015 15:09, poma wrote:
>>>>     > On 05.06.2015 14:14, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
>>>>     >> Le 05. 06. 15 13:18, Aleksander Morgado a écrit :
>>>>     >>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Jean-Christian de Rivaz 
>>>> <[email protected]
>>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>     >>>> I have a system where the modem have multiple /dev/ttyACMx ports 
>>>> where
>>>>     x is
>>>>     >>>> not constant because of the dynamic nature of others serial 
>>>> devices.
>>>>     >>> It may be worth noting that a very similar issue with the one faced
>>>>     >>> here is the one with network interface names, where interface names
>>>>     >>> were created as kernel drivers probed the different interfaces, 
>>>> ending
>>>>     >>> up with "eth0", "eth1" and so on. Then, there would be network
>>>>     >>> interface configurations for each network interface based on the 
>>>> name,
>>>>     >>> but no one really ensured that the name was the same upon reboots. 
>>>> The
>>>>     >>> solution provided by systemd to ensure that the proper 
>>>> configuration
>>>>     >>> is applied always to the proper interface is to make the device 
>>>> names
>>>>     >>> "predictable", see:
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     
>>>> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>> This solution avoids the need of any other udev rules to e.g. 
>>>> create
>>>>     >>> network interface names containing the device MAC address or what 
>>>> not.
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>> I'm wondering whether the same could be applied not only to network
>>>>     >>> interfaces, but also to ttyACMs, ttyUSBs and cdc-wdms, and end up
>>>>     >>> having predictable tty names like e.g. /dev/ttyACMp0s20u4i0. Sure,
>>>>     >>> those names are a nightmare to type, but they are predictable 
>>>> (e.g. in
>>>>     >>> this case by including the physical location of the connector of 
>>>> the
>>>>     >>> hardware).
>>>>     >>>
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> This would be a wonderful solution. The only problem is when will 
>>>> this
>>>>     >> feature be available in a stable Linux kernel widely used by all 
>>>> majors
>>>>     >> distributions? Until this dream happens (probably not before 
>>>> severals
>>>>     >> years I guess), an other option must be implemented.
>>>>     >>
>>>>     >> Jean-Christian
>>>>     >
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Face your broadband modem, live your dreams?
>>>>     >
>>>>     > Kay, when this would happen - Predictable Broadband Modem Interface 
>>>> Names?
>>>>     >
>>>>
>>>>     Wouldn't it be nicer to have symlinks like in /dev/disk ?
>>>>     /dev/tty/by-path/....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 60-serial.rules:16:ENV{ID_PATH}=="?*", ENV{.ID_PORT}=="",
>>>> SYMLINK+="serial/by-path/$env{ID_PATH}"
>>>> 60-serial.rules:17:ENV{ID_PATH}=="?*", ENV{.ID_PORT}=="?*",
>>>> SYMLINK+="serial/by-path/$env{ID_PATH}-port$env{.ID_PORT}" 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Mantas Mikulėnas <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>
>>> There we go.. already implemented :)
>>
>>
>> But not dracut-mented:
>> # lsinitrd initramfs-4.1.0-0.rc5.git0.1.fc23.x86_64.img | grep 
>> 60-serial.rules ; echo $?
>> 1
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/rules/60-serial.rules
>>
>>
> 
> no modem-manager in there also
> 


Thank you.

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