it’s not like I don’t understand when you’d want some different behaviour in a 
program to account for the simulator’s environment. I just wonder if it’s worth 
being a built-in part of the language. To me, it feels like something better 
suited to an ad-hoc build option or global constant.

OS, CPU architecture and endianness are of a different ‘level', IMO. They are 
typically only useful for very low-level operations (especially once we have 
#canImport - I expect that to replace most uses of #os with a better, 
higher-level abstraction).

Really, I think the current TARGET_OS_SIMULATOR compile-time variable is the 
best approach. Perhaps it could be renamed or aliased to sound nicer from 
cross-platform code, but I’m not sure it really deserves to be part of the 
language.

As for the iOS Keychain API - a quick search indicates that they are supposed 
to work in the simulator since Xcode 7 (see, for example, 
https://github.com/AzureAD/azure-activedirectory-library-for-objc/pull/673)

- Karl

> On 26. Oct 2017, at 15:36, BJ Homer via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Example: the iOS Keychain APIs do not support access groups on the simulator, 
> so if you try to make a keychain query that targets an access group, you get 
> no results. This means that in order for my app to operate correctly on 
> simulator, I need to pass different parameters on simulator and device. This 
> is an unfortunate distinction that ideally should not exist in a simulator, 
> but unfortunately such cases do exist.
> 
> (This was at least true in iOS 9, and I haven’t seen any indication that it 
> has changed.)
> 
> -BJ
> 
> On Oct 26, 2017, at 5:43 AM, Karl Wagner via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> 
>> I’m currently -1 on this, because I don’t think simulator/device is a 
>> worthwhile-enough distinction for a built-in condition.
>> 
>> - Are you maybe looking for a Debug/Release condition? Because we already 
>> have that, through compile-time variables (the “-D” option).
>> - Does your platform’s simulator/emulator expose any additional API? Great! 
>> Take a look at #canImport…
>> - Why else would you need to distinguish simulator/device, and why are OS 
>> and architecture not sufficient for that case?
>> 
>> Karl
>> 
>>> On 25. Oct 2017, at 05:05, Graydon Hoare via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I'd like to propose a variant of a very minor, additive proposal Erica 
>>> Sadun posted last year, that cleans up a slightly messy idiomatic use of 
>>> conditional compilation in libraries. The effects should be quite limited; 
>>> I'd call it a "standard library" addition except that the repertoire of 
>>> compiler-control statements isn't strictly part of the stdlib.
>>> 
>>> Proposal is here: 
>>> https://gist.github.com/graydon/809af2c726cb1a27af64435e47ef4e5d 
>>> <https://gist.github.com/graydon/809af2c726cb1a27af64435e47ef4e5d>
>>> 
>>> Implementation (minus fixits) is here: 
>>> https://github.com/graydon/swift/commit/16493703ea297a1992ccd0fc4d2bcac7d078c982
>>>  
>>> <https://github.com/graydon/swift/commit/16493703ea297a1992ccd0fc4d2bcac7d078c982>
>>> 
>>> Feedback appreciated,
>>> 
>>> -Graydon
>>> 
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