> On 11 Mar 2017, at 00:05, Xiaodi Wu <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Some days ago, Ben Cohen laid out the criteria for helper functions in the 
> Standard Library. Here's some of his very enlightening text and the six 
> criteria:
> 
>> The operation needs to carry its weight. Even once we have ABI stability, so 
>> the size of the std lib becomes less of a concern as it could ship as part 
>> of the OS, we still need to keep helper method growth under control. APIs 
>> bristling with methods like an over-decorated Xmas tree are bad for 
>> usability. As mentioned in the String manifesto, String+Foundation currently 
>> has over 200 methods/properties. Helpers are no good if you can’t find them 
>> to use them.
>  
>> 1. Is it truly a frequent operation?
>> 2. Is the helper more readable? Is the composed equivalent obvious at a 
>> glance?
>> 3. Does the helper have the flexibility to cover all common cases?
>> 4. Is there a correctness trap with the composed equivalent? Is there a 
>> correctness trap with the helper?
>> 5. Is there a performance trap with the composed equivalent? Or with the 
>> helper?
>> 6. Does the helper actually encourage misuse?
> 
> 
> The reasons I'm opposed to adding `clamp` are as follows:
> 
> It is trivially composed from `min` and `max`, with no correctness traps.
> 
> As the discussion above shows, there are correctness traps when you have a 
> `clamp` operation that takes open ranges, whereas the composed form using 
> `min` and `max` does not suffer from the same issue.
> 
> It encourages misuse, because Dave's desired use case (for indices) works 
> *only* for arrays and falls down for collections. This is similar to the 
> problem which motivates removal of `enumerated()` as discussed in other 
> threads. In this case, it is not guaranteed that a collection with indices 
> `0..<10` has an index 9.
> 

You make a good point, but then how exactly did the range-clamping function 
make it into the standard library in the first place? I can't think of frequent 
reason to want to clamp a range to within another range putting my mind to it, 
yet a clamp function on the Bound type has uses with arrays and offers a clear 
improvement to readability. Then there's the (potential) correctness trap of 
mixing up min and max, which I find leads me to need to double-check the logic 
after typing.

Seeing those criteria just makes it all the more frustrating that the 
range-clamping version is the one to have made the cut.

> 
> On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 4:48 PM, James Froggatt via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> This topic caught my attention. I support the idea, I'm currently using an 
>> extension for this.
>> 
>> >>Should “16.clamped(to: 0..<10)” produce 9 or 10?
>> 
>> >9
>> 
>> Sounds good.
>> 
>> >>What about “16.clamped(to: 0..<0)”, which is an empty range?
>> 
>> >For `Int`? Crash (which, until about 5 minutes ago, is what I thought would 
>> >happen if you tried to create a range that’s empty like that). For types 
>> >that support it, I’d say NaN or something like “nil”/“empty” is the most 
>> >appropriate return value
>> 
>> Nasty but reasonable. I'd support it returning nil in this case, this would 
>> provide a warning that the result may not be a valid number, as well as 
>> providing this elegant range validation:
>> 
>> `if let index = candidate.clamped(to: array.indices) { … }`
>> 
>> (or a possible alternative spelling:)
>> 
>> `if let index = array.indices.clamp(candidate) { … }`
>> 
>> >>Does “16.0.clamped(to: 0..<10)” yield 10.0 or the next-smaller 
>> >>representable Double?
>> 
>> >Next-smaller, IMHO. It’s not exactly semantically correct, but AFAIK that’s 
>> >as correct as Float/Double can be.
>> 
>> One could argue the most ‘correct’ value here is the closest representation 
>> of the theoretical value, `10.0 - (1 / ∞)`, which should clearly round to 
>> 10. However, this also rounds the result back out of the range, meaning it's 
>> unsuitable as a result. Both possibilities are, for lack of a better word, 
>> ugly.
>> 
>> >Mostly though I’d really like to be able to clamp to array indices, which 
>> >are pretty much always written as a `Range`, rather than a `ClosedRange`. 
>> >We could write the function for `Range` to only be generic over 
>> >`Comparable&Integer`, if the floating point corner cases are too much.
>> 
>> > - Dave Sweeris
>> 
>> My conclusion also. I'd like to see this added to the standard library, if 
>> it's in scope for Swift 4.
>> 
>> Sidenote: I can't help but think index validation would be better solved in 
>> many cases by an optional-returning array subscript (`array[ifPresent: 
>> index]`), but I've seen this solution turned down several times due to the 
>> lack of discoverability (read: lack of Xcode autocompletion, which I 
>> originally thought was a bug until it stayed that way for ~3 years). I'd 
>> also like to see this feature get added in some form, eventually.
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