On 09/20/2018 02:03 AM, Joakim Bygdell wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 21:31, Bill Perry 
> <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     The initial post I did was for subsurface mobile 2.1.2 but in just a few 
> hours 2.1.3(4.8.2.5) was pushed out.
>     This response is for 2.1.3 but the behavior in this area seems to be same 
> for both 2.1.2 or 2.1.3(4.8.2.5)
>
>     On 09/19/2018 01:33 AM, Joakim Bygdell wrote:
>>     On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 03:25, Bill Perry <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
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>>         Will the app remember the cloud sync setting if the app was 
>> installed with it enabled and the app is upgraded?
>>         Seems like it should.
>>
>>     Unless you purge the current installation before installing the new 
>> version the setting should be remembered.
>>
>>
>>         Here is an odd and unexpected sync behavior that I'm seeing.
>>
>>         26 dives were downloaded directly from the dive computer using my 
>> GS7. (using a debug version of 4.8.1 that I built)
>>
>>     Did you download the dives before or after activating your cloud account 
>> on the device?
>
>     Original dive computer downloading was done last summer during some other 
> testing when I was trying to get the Pelagic data cables to work with 
> subsurface mobile.
>     Now that I think about it, these dives were originally downloaded on a 
> linux desktop not the GS7 and synced to the cloud.
>     During that testing, these 26 dives were being download from both a linux 
> desktop and a GS4 and testing was being done with and without cloud syncing.
>     Often I would remove the app to start clean with cloud sync disabled to 
> force all the dives to be re-downloaded on both the desktop and mobile.
>
>     However, during recent testing, with Subsurface mobile 4.8.1 I also 
> downloaded them on the GS7 with cloud sync disabled.
>     I had to disable cloud sync to ensure that the dives would actually be 
> transfered from the dive computer.
>     So I have done it both ways with various app installations.
>
>
>
>>         Another 30 dives were downloaded on another device and synced to the 
>> cloud which where then synced to my GS7.
>>         The app on the GS7 shows all 56 dives and when bringing up the app, 
>> it says "56 dives loaded from local dive data file".
>>
>>         I removed the 4.8.1 APP and then installed the latest app version of 
>> 2.1.2 (4.8.2.0)
>>         When it comes up only 26 dives show up - even though 56 dives were 
>> showing up previously.
>>
>>     That is strange, if you fully remove the app all local data should be 
>> removed.
>>
>>     When you then start the app you should be greeted with the landing page 
>> where you have the choise of typing in your
>>     cloud credentials or start in "No cloud mode".
>>     If you pick "No cloud mode" the divelist that loads should be empty.
>>     If you type in your cloud credentials on the first start up, it should 
>> pull everything from the cloud before the divelist is shown.
>
>     That isn't what I'm seeing.
>     The GS7 (Android 8.0.0) and the GS4 (Android 4.4.4) have different 
> behaviors.
>     GS7 remembers things between uninstall and re-install.
>     GS4 seems to start clean and work like you mentioned after removing the 
> app and re-installing.
>
>  
> The problem is in your GS7 then, you need to see if there is a way to fully 
> purge all app related data when uninstalling the app.

Ok. I think I have figured out why the S7 "remembers" the previous settings.
There is a backup/restore option to automatically restore settings and data 
when an app is re-installed.
I have this enabled - as normally I want this for applications especially if 
re-installing them on a new phone.
I'm assuming that this is why the settings were remembered.


>
>     On the GS7 (Android 8.0.0),  If I install the app, uninstall it and 
> re-install it
>     I sometimes see a very brief flash of the landing/cloud credentials page 
> and then it displays the dive list with the add dives icon at the bottom of 
> the screen.
>     And the original local 26 dives are showing.
>     If I go to the Dive management dialog, Enable auto cloud sync is checked 
> and cloud credentials are already in place.
>     I can click on Manual sync with cloud and the other 30 dives are pulled 
> in.  It remembers the cloud account and password.
>     I can repeat this over and over again, installing 2.1.3, seeing 26 dives, 
> doing a cloud sync to get the other 30 dives, uninstalling it and 
> re-installing, seeing the 26 dives,
>     doing a manual cloud sync to get the other 30.
>     So it isn't just a one time thing.
>     This behavior is the same on the GS4 with Android 4.4.4 and the GS7 with 
> Android 8.0.0
>
>
>     The 4.8.1 app I built from sources and loaded from an SD card had a 
> different behavior.
>     4.8.1 dropped you on the screen that asks for your cloud settings.
>     It always came up with cloud disabled and didn't ever remember the 
> previously used cloud account settings.
>     No dives showed up if you didn't enable cloud and all 56 would 
> immediately show up after the cloud credentials were entered.
>
>
> That is the expected behaviour if the app was fully removed.
> The differences you are seeing can be related to app signing, if done 
> properly the official app
> and the one you build should throw an error if you try to install them on the 
> same device at the same time.

I only have one installed at a time. I uninstall the app before installing a 
different version.

>
>
>     2.1.2(4.8.2.0) and 2.1.3(4.8.2.5) both bypass that cloud credential 
> screen on the GS7 (Android 8.0.0)
>     (or seems to momentarily flash it) and remembers the previous cloud 
> settings.
>     Including after manually uninstalling it and then re-installing it.
>     But it doesn't seem to do an initial cloud sync when first started and 
> only the 26 dives show up.
>     A manual cloud sync pulls in the other 30.
>
>
>>         If I go to dive management and click on Manual sync with cloud I get 
>> the other 30 dives.
>>         If I exit the app and start it up again, it says "56 dives loaded 
>> from local dive data file" and all 56 dives are there.
>>         If I remove the 2.1.2(4.8.2.0) app, and re-install 2.1.2(4.8.2.) 
>> again, when I bring up the app again it says "26 dives loaded from the local 
>> dive data file".
>>
>>         It appears that any dives that were synced from the cloud (I assume 
>> to the local data file?) are lost when the app is re-installed.
>>         This seems really odd.
>>         Is that really the intended behavior?
>>
>>     There is a separation between local saved dives and dives stored in the 
>> cloud.
>>     You can have different cloud accounts while still having the same local 
>> storage for the same user.
>
>     So it keeps some sort of local separation internally on the device 
> between dives actually download from the dive computer with the mobile device 
> vs dives
>     synced from the cloud?
>     even though all the dives shows up as a single dive list after syncing?
>
>
>  Local saved dives will be merged into the active cloud account when you 
> sync, and will be accessible from other devices using the same cloud account.
>
>
>     And how does it handle things when the very same dives were downloaded 
> and cloud synced by multiple devices.
>     Say locally by a mobile device  *and* from another mobile device or 
> desktop and then synced to the cloud?
>
>
> I wonder why you would do that, but it should merge fine since the data from 
> the DC will be identical.

It is due to my current testing.
There are still some issues with the pelagic data cable and things are 
working/not working differently on different platforms
so I'm re-downloading the same dives quite often on different devices while 
testing.
I agree that this is something that is not normally done.

>
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>
>     --- bill
>
>
>
> -- 
> Jocke
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