Hey, >From my point of view the profile of the dive is the modt important. It can tell exactly what went wrong or good and why during a dive.
On Nov 28, 2017 02:27, "Hartley Horwitz" <[email protected]> wrote: > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Willem Ferguson <[email protected]> >> To: Subsurface Mailing List <[email protected]> >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 15:10:12 +0200 >> Subject: RFC: Print templates for 4 dives per page and 6 dives per page >> >> I attach two images for some print templates that I have been working >> with. I would appreciate comments from any members of this list, but >> especially from anyone who prints dives to paper. >> > > HH - I'm a recreational diver and I 'used to' print out my logs. When I > moved to using Subsurface I wanted to get many diver/page to save paper and > in that case I didn't care about the profile. I did care about the notes. > The thinking is that a dive operator doesn't care how long you spent at 30m > or 40m, just that you did. Or they don't care what your profile looked > like, just that you did a night dive or something like that. > > Don't get me wrong. One of the key reasons I use Subsurface is the > visualization of the dive, but I think only me and my dive partner care > about that and in that case I use my laptop or handheld to view the > profile. > >> My point of departure with this work is to accommodate divers why >> frequently print dives. Three points: 1) The biggest limitation is that all >> dive details (i.e. those shown on the Notes, Equipment and Information tabs >> in Subsurface) cannot be fitted onto a single sheet of paper. Therefore I >> assume that those who print dives are more likely to be those who dive in a >> recreational environment and configuration. Such divers have fewer demands >> from a printout, compared to technical/sidemount/rebreather divers. >> > [HH] agree > >> These print layouts are therefore geared towards recreational divers. 2) >> I used "conventional" recreational dive log sheets available on the >> Internet to determine what information is more likely to be relevant to a >> recreational diver. 3) Though I have not been totally consistent, I assumed >> that the information showed in the multiple-dives-per-page layouts should >> not show information different from the one-dive-per-page layout. If space >> is limiting, a subset of information on the one-page layout should be shown >> on the layouts with less page space for each dive. Any comments on these >> points of departure? >> >> *6 dives:* On the left is the current default layout. Biggest issue is >> that the notes are mostly not shown or severely truncated. It is futile to >> include the Notes in the 6-dive layout. A lot of information is shown here, >> which are not shown in the one-page print layout (e.g. SAC rate, rating, >> tags). In putting together a 6-dive layout, I decided to split the >> templates into two: 1) a template that does not show the notes; 2) a >> template that does not show the dive profile. This gives a diver a choice >> to print whatever is more important for her/him. In these two derived >> templates, I re-arranged the layout compared to the current template. >> > [HH] given my comments above, it isn't surprising I prefer the 2nd layout > for the 6-dive - the one with more space for notes and no profile. > >> Note that in all 6-dive layouts, the depth and time labels on the dive >> profile are for all practical purposes illegible, and I suspect this is a >> problem that is not easily solved. Note: >> >> 1) The gas information on my two templates are truncated if more than one >> cylinder is used on a dive. The gas information in my templates are rather >> cryptic, giving cylinder type, gas type and begin/end cylinder pressure. In >> the existing 6-dive layout (leftmost in image) there is more information >> given for gas, but this comes with a penalty in other aspects of the page >> layout. >> >> 2) In the proposed 6-dive layout with dive notes (i.e. without dive >> profile), the dive notes are truncated if there are too many notes. I often >> write fairly lengthy dive notes, so in the multiple-diives-per-page >> printouts, my notes are commonly truncated. >> > > [HH] the space you've allocated for notes seems sufficient for my > purposes. > >> *4 dives: *We currently do not have a 4-dive template. My rationale was >> that if someone wanted a several dives per page and also both the dive >> profile and the dive notes, a 4-dive layout is the more viable than the >> 6-dive layout. Here also, if the dive notes are long, they are truncated. >> This layout is a compromise to show more or less all the information >> originally intended with the 6-dive layout. >> > > [HH] I no longer print out, but would use the 6-dive, no profile > template. I just asked my wife and she likes the 4-dive template! It just > shows you that it is hard to have a 1 size fits all solution. > >> Any comments are highly appreciated. If these layout are perceived as >> useful, I will circulate the templates so that you can test them on your >> own dive log. After that we can decide in which way they will be added to >> the current set of templates. >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > subsurface mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.subsurface-divelog.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/subsurface > >
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