Paul Lesneiwski:

[...]

> 1.5.1 is NOT STABLE.  It is the development stream.  I think there are
> some people who successfully use some variant of 1.5.x code in production,

:g/1.5.1 is NOT STABLE/s//1.5.1 is NOT GUARANTEED TO BE STABLE/g

Things might break now and again, but by running any given SM 1.5.1 CVS
"co" update for a couple of days/a week on a test server, one'll soon find
out if important things break or not. I run SM dating from 21 Feb 1.5.1
CVS on this test machine and in an Internet IMAP server. No-one (1150+
users) on the latter has problems, no-one shouts at me, 1.5.1 CVS has
things that 1.4 "stable" does not. The selection was given after giving a
couple of test mice on the Internet server a choice between either (same
IMAP mail base, different urls). None of the mice found problems, so now
everyone uses it, like it or not.

Same as Wietse Venema's Postfix, same as Sam Varshavchik's Courier IMAP
and Maildrop, both of whom constantly urge folk to try the latest CVS and
it mostly is stable, production-ripe stuff.

Yeah, there can be occasional quirks with SM 1.5.1, but you're (i.e. Paul
is) being too modest here. The code is mostly s*dd*ng good. I suppose SM
code was originally, at one time, awful, but I wasn't around then.

The contrast to all the above, is Kurt Zeilinga's OpenLDAP.org stuff,
which kept on announcing "stable" versions (it still does), but EVERYTHING
in the OL 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 trees was unreliable and unstable as hell until
proper programmers (HC, PAM) began to take over, and versions from 2.2.17
and above really *did* become reliable and stable.

Samba (my vote for best-implemented software for 2005, having given Sam
and Wietse the same verdict for the last two years) also defines "stable",
but keeps on coming up with redefinitions like "even more stable".

Who the hell's to judge what "stable" means? The ultimate example, I
suppose, is the mafia at Redmond,

--Tonni

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